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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-29 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #4558 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4558 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[El Orfanato]


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[Stephen Merchant, English writer, director, radio presenter, comedian and actor but NOT the guy who did A Room With a View and Howard's End]


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[Horatio Hornblower]


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[Good Omens]


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[Queer Eye]


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[Gotham]









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(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I agree that the other characters were neglected.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. They had about as many scenes in the book as they did in the show.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - That's assuming that OP meant they were neglected in terms of screen time, and not neglected in terms of say, attention to quality writing, characterization, etc.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2019-06-29 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
My impression (haven't reread the book in a while) was that the main humans and Horsepersons got about the same amount of scenes, some of the more minor characters got cut for simplicity, and Crowley and Aziraphale got a bunch of extra character-and-relationship-building scenes that almost nobody else did. (Shadwell got a good appearance, helped explain his personal history, in one of the C-and-A flashbacks.)

...Overall I was fine with the story, but there are specific points that could've used more scaffolding, yeah. Brian and Wensleydale facing off against Pollution and Famine deserved actual setup! It was especially weird since Brian's only defined character trait was "grubby." (Pepper vs. War, at least, was set up just fine.)
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[personal profile] type_wild 2019-06-29 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen the TV series yet, but I've read several reviews by people unfamiliar with the book. A common chorus was, in fact, that Aziraphel and Crowley were brilliant and the rest of the story was lacking. I don't know if "neglected" is the what happened, but there certainly seems to be an imbalance to the story focus.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
The closest thing I can think of to explain it is that for me, the book is about humanity but the miniseries is about heaven and hell. For example: Greasy Johnson the Johnsonites aren't even mentioned in the miniseries, even though their existence has thematic importance in the book. You could say, well, they were minor characters and sure they were, but all the extra angels and demons who showed up in the miniseries didn't even exist in the book so that seems a thin excuse. The miniseries just seemed more like it was one episode in a larger series about Aziraphale and Crowley and their adventures, whereas the book felt self contained around its specific story.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-30 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really like this explanation of the difference between the miniseries and the book.
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[personal profile] type_wild 2019-06-30 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds a) plausible, and b) like a good explanation for the difference. Without having read an awful of of Gaiman's solo work, I'd definitely think he'd be drawn to the heaven-hell story, and I think the fandom's great love of Aziraphale and Crowley might've been something he intentionally wanted to play into.