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https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-pride-lion-king-174549010.html

I mean, yeah, obviously. It's a Disney animated movie so I don't think you necessarily have to focus on it as a political message, but to the extent that you do, it's obviously very conservative.

Obviously how?

It's called The Lion King and it's about the importance of monarchy and more broadly tradition and the natural order of things.

This just in, lions are conservative! Are they fiscally conservative as well?

Does this person not know that A) TLK is basically Hamlet B) Real lions actually do have pride leaders, fights for power, and poor leaders.

How does either of these change the argument in either way? Also it's not "basically Hamlet". It's a very loose adaptation of Hamlet unless I missed a few things like Simba dying at the end

Nat Geo actually just ran an article about how this popular concept of lion prides is incorrectly male-focused. In fact, prides are female groups of lions (all family), and the men come and go but are never permanent fixtures. Male lions will wander around, even in pairs, trying to find a group of females. Once they're in, and accepted by the females, they still don't do much work, it's the adult females that do everything.

>>The Lion King is, you’ll recall, the tale of a band of ugly ingrates and malcontents whose class resentment causes them to upend the social order at the urging of a hateful, self-serving demagogue. Scar (Chiwetel Ejiofor) seizes power like Lenin, via murder and treachery, and seeks to maintain it by making redistributionist noises to sucker the poor. He calls for a “coup,” then declares, “From now on, the hyenas eat first.” This is where Bill de Blasio, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leap to their feet and cheer. Bad news, comrades: Scar is as worthy of your admiration as most of your other heroes. Later he lets slip that he despises the hyena-proletarian class that is his political base, and plans a bit of mass murder, like most other regicidal revolutionaries. The hyenas are not his constituency but simply the weapons with which he achieves power. Not that the their demands should be given undue weight: “A hyena’s belly is never full,” we are told, by way of warning about what happens when you pander to the slavering hordes.

“A hyena’s belly is never full,”

That isn't really a wrong statement. Hyenas eating get into such a frenzy they often hurt each other.

I can’t help thinking about how my reaction to this is way under proportion for how utterly ridiculous it is. If I had gone off to live in a cave with no internet or politics ten years ago and just returned now, I would be really, really confused and disturbed. Right now, other than reflecting on my lack of reaction, my only reaction is to roll my eyes and scroll on by.

>Right now, other than reflecting on my lack of reaction, my only reaction is to roll my eyes and scroll on by.

That is basically my reaction. It is just so...silly.

"The Lion King is, you’ll recall, the tale of a band of ugly ingrates and malcontents whose class resentment causes them to upend the social order at the urging of a hateful, self-serving demagogue." - couldn't this describe some conservative types, like Trump ? Especially the whole thing about gaining power though class resentment?

well, it revolves completely around male lions even though IRL it's female lions who do all the hunting, and I'm not even going to get into why the first scene has elephants kissing a lion's ass when an elephant can kill a lion with one good stomp or swat.

It has nothing to do with real lions. It just uses animals to tell the story. It isn't based on real lion behavior, though.

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