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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-15 07:08 pm

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(Anonymous) 2019-07-15 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
AMEN. I just got this satisfaction as the ship that I had low-key shipped throughout the entire canon not only became official canon but ended with a wedding. I couldn't possibly have asked for more.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
This happened for me once as well. It was delightful.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-15 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaime/Brienne is my only ship that's ever become canon. I'd rather it hadn't.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't regret that they became canon.

I regret that their hook-up was written by idiots who apparently forgot a few things about the relationship. Like, the fact it meant something. Or that, y'know, at least one of them was supposed to be on this redemption arc.

I'll just have to rely on fix-it fic though, since there's no telling if GRRM will publish a better version before his death.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Does a one night stand really count as making the ship canon though?

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a one-night stand if you remember the jet-pack mechanics of the last two seasons. The viewers saw he was in her bed twice, but he had to have been with her for at least a month while the others went to Kings Landing.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-15 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much sums up my attitude as well, OP :D. It's great to see characters you love go off and be happy together like that.
nightscale: They smooch (Shadowhunters: Malec)

[personal profile] nightscale 2019-07-15 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I get it, I'll ship canon or non-canon(or both!) depending on what pulls at me but the enjoyment of seeing my ship be together on-screen and getting their happy-ending is really something I love. It just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
There's definitely something incredibly satisfying about having your ship become canon, especially if you genuinely weren't sure they ever would. But the flip side is, more often than not the writers don't write the pairing very well once they get together, and you end up having to ignore a ton of stuff in order to keep shipping them.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
da.

i always find it so weird when people say this because this hasn't been my experience at all when i've shipped canon. i rooted for them to get together, they did and were still good after. i think i've only had one pair i stopped liking after they got together, but that's it.

anecdotal data and all sure, but i feel like this more boils down to peoples own individual tastes rather than it being true across the board.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
The two main ships I've had that became canon, after years of genuinely thinking they might never become canon, were Grissom/Sara, and Scully/Mulder.

Scully/Mulder is one of the dearest pairings to my heart, to this day, but oh boy. They are the quintessential example of what happens when the writers don't know how to write the leads together, and probably don't even really understand why people want them together in the first place, but cave to the pressure and try to write it anyway.

Grissom/Sara...meh. I'm not sure if I'd say the way their relationship was written was bad. But the way the show started going in for more interpersonal character drama around that point wasn't a positive thing, and Grissom and Sara getting together ended up feeling like at least a partial cause of the show beginning its long decline into irrelevance.

And then there's Booth/Brennan. It was obvious they were endgame from the start, but ugh. IMO anything good about that show began to wither right around the time the writers started to get serious about R-ing Booth and Brennan's UST.


The flipside, I suppose, is pairings like Leslie Knope/Ben Wyatt, Amy Santiago/Jake Peralta, Jim Halpert/Pam Beasly (though I drifted away from The Office around S6), who continue to be believable, sweet, and well written after they get together.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of times, after getting in a relationship, the characters become Stock Male Character and Stock Female Character personality-wise. And their dynamic that drew you in is changed too, often to something stereotypical and annoying. I'm mostly talking about tv characters in this. Non-hetero couples I don't know, because they're not in the cookie-cutter mold to begin with.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
ART - I agree with all of this completely.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Started reading a cute manga featuring a friendship between two guys, thought they were adorable and started shipping them even though it’s not a BL/yaoi/romance manga at all (4-koma slice of life). Fast forward 3 years later and the two characters are in love and confessing to each other :3

Feels SO GOOD when your ship you never expected to happen does.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Okay well, now you have to share!

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
(My original comment posted twice oops...)

AYRT - “Sasaki and Miyano”. I have unfortunately spoiled the confession for you, but I hope it is enjoyable all the same! It’s also ongoing so even if you get caught up there’s still more to look forward to :)

The author has deliberately avoided any labels that would indicate a romance of any sort (let alone between her male MCs) so it was a very pleasant surprise when the two characters who got closer and closer and seemed to be developing feelings actually acted on them in a story outside of a genre you’d expect that in :)

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(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with this! When you expect the ship to be canon, and it does, that's nice if they execute it well. But when you don't expect it to happen and it does... that's MAGIC

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Such a pretty image, OP! Can I ask where it came from?

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP. Pretty sure it's by Ivan Aivazovsky. I don't have a link, but with a little digging I'm sure you could find it.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Started reading a cute manga featuring a friendship between two guys, thought they were adorable and started shipping them even though it’s not a BL/yaoi/romance manga at all (4-koma slice of life). Fast forward 3 years later and the two characters are in love and confessing to each other :3

Feels SO GOOD when your ship you never expected to happen does.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
(Erk, this posted twice, sorry...)

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm probably good on the sinking ship in this image;;

I love it when my ships aren't canon. I generally ship m/m, which as rare as it is, tends to come across as very one-dimensional most of the time when, and if, it even becomes canon...
The best, and only, example I can think for a (mostly) gay character, would be Flint (Black Sails), and only because they built his entire story into plot from the beginning. Thomas wasn't just some character who only existed to 'prove the gay', and maybe it was because their story ended as ambiguously(?), and as soon as it did, I liked. It left the viewer to analyze and embellish all they wanted.

Once something becomes canon, it's like a vacuum sucks any and every creative instinct from the fandom. Particularly when it comes to headcanons, and fanfiction. Like they need to work the ship into exactly how the show brought/kept them together... Even when anything else could have been better.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-16 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Good: When your ship becomes canon.

Bad: Tinhatting that your ship must become canon because reasons and getting ugly about it.