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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-10-05 05:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #639 ]


⌈ Secret Post #639 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
So, because a certain subset of Torchwood fandom seems to only like two characters, anyone who finds fault with anyone other than Jack and Ianto must be part of that group?

This is another proof of you taking things too seriously. It's not because it invloves rape, apparently.

If the point was to show what a good and conscientious person I was, I wouldn't commenting anon, bb.

Then why aren't you replying at all? To make me see the light? That's a sign of being 'self-righteous and mighty'.

No one is branding anyone as a bad person, except perhaps Owen.

You can not agree a dislike a characteré, but I don't think anyone has the right to seriously brand anyone, including fictional characters, as a bad person.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This is another proof of you taking things too seriously. It's not because it invloves rape, apparently.

Uhm, what? I was just pointing out that the argument made no sense.

Then why aren't you replying at all? To make me see the light? That's a sign of being 'self-righteous and mighty'.

To express what I think on the matter. Why are you replying?

You can not agree a dislike a characteré, but I don't think anyone has the right to seriously brand anyone, including fictional characters, as a bad person.

Who's being self-righteous, now? I'm not allowed to say that I think a fictional character isn't such a nice guy?

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, what? I was just pointing out that the argument made no sense.

It's because it wasn't an arguement.

To express what I think on the matter. Why are you replying?

Also to express what I think. And because I'm interested on how you make your point stand. And because I'm too proud to just say 'fuck it, it isn't worth it.'

Who's being self-righteous, now? I'm not allowed to say that I think a fictional character isn't such a nice guy?

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to. I'm just saying you shouldn't say it and expect people to agree with you because you think the only valid point of view is yours. And you didn't say you thought he was a bad person. You just said he was, and there's a world of difference on thinking something and saying it as a universal truth.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's because it wasn't an arguement.

Sorry, statement, line of thinking, whatever you want to call it. Stop being so petty.

And you didn't say you thought he was a bad person.

Sorry, I thought it was implied that it was what I thought. I will no preface everything I say with "THIS IS WHAT I THINK:" instead of just stating the thought and expecting people to understand normal human conversation.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, to make more sense of that last sentence, pretend I didn't miss the "w" on the end of "now."

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not being any more petty than you.

Actually, in a 'normal human conversation', the way you are saying something is as important as what you're saying. Not, the 'this is what I think' isn't implied in every conversation you ever have. Yes, you should say it if you expect people to take it that way, especially on the Internet.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not being any more petty than you.

LOL. Case in point.

Yes, you should say it if you expect people to take it that way, especially on the Internet.

Sorry, that's just idiotic. Do you have any idea how irritating that would be if every person's opinion was prefaced by "THIS IS WHAT I THINK PLEASE DO NO ASSUME THAT I AM PUTTING THIS FORTH AS A UNIVERSAL TRUTH"...?

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Well, yeah,in a real life conversation. But here, it would make things like... this tread happens less often. Just take into consideration that on the Internet, communication is not the same as in person. There are people from all sorts of different cultures and upbringing. You can't see anyone's face of hear their tone of voice. It's easier for misunderstandings to happen. You can't take anything as 'implied'. You just have to make a a bit more efforts to be perfectly clear, or you risk people jumping on you for stupid things.

In your own journal, then it's fine, but in a community like this one, things are a bit different.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
No. It would be annoying on the internet, too.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Disclaimers are annoying as well - does that mean we should forget about them and risk getting sued by oversensitive copyright owners?

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Being cautious when legal issues are involved is not comparable to being repetitive because some people are idiots and can't understand normal discussion without explicit explanation of EVERYTHING.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
No. You're very dim. No one is going to hold your hand, if you can't understand nuance.

Re: 110

(Anonymous) 2008-10-06 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
If being bright is insulting people all the time and then complaining about being misunderstood, well, I'm happy to be 'dim', then.

(But, seriously? I thought we could finally come to a semi-understanding. Doesn't seem like it.)