[ SECRET POST #4587 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4587 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[kribban]

Watching Another Life. There's a non binary character, cool. But their pronouns are ze/hir which makes me want to scream. Just use they/them like a normal person!

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like a fuddy-duddy whenever I think stuff like that. Like, I understand & respect your pronouns, but "they/them" is just so much easier to say.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

That show's a bloody dumpster fire anyway.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Hot cast, though

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that sucks to hear. The premise is right up my alley, so I was planning to watch it when I had the time.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Is "hir" pronounced differently enough from "her" that people notice?

"Ze put hir bag over there" sounds more like somebody trying to badly fake a bad German accent while speaking about a woman. Isn't "they" more distinctly nb?

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

That's how I "hear" it in my head, too... as a bad German accent.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

I know that the consensus among NB people (like over 90%) is "they" but having read queer SFF with alternate pronoun sets, I think they're a better option grammatically.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Ze/hir is a normal NB pronoun. This was becoming well-known years ago before gatekeepers started screaming about "cringey" neopronouns. I hope the show can help more people get used to it again!

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're putting the cart before the horse there. I think the reason that ze and hir haven't succeeded is because many people find them weird and offputting - I don't think that "gatekeepers" needed to brainwash people into reacting that way.

That doesn't mean that they don't have their own merits, but it is the drawback.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Often those pronouns have histories of use longer than the gatekeepers.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

YES. I feel the same way . As a group already struggling with acceptance, making up stupid pronouns isn't going to help. It looks particularly dumb in text.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, good old respectability politics! :')