[ SECRET POST #4590 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4590 ⌋

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[Good Omens]


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[Jay and Silent Bob Reboot]


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[Masterchef Australia]


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[The Witcher]


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[Michael Sheen and his girlfriend, Swedish actress Anna Lundberg]


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[Project Mc2, Bryden and Camryn]


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[Good Omens]






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Comments

[fscom]

06. https://i.imgur.com/eQERQYU.png
[Michael Sheen and his girlfriend, Swedish actress Anna Lundberg]

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between calling something pedophilia and being aware that barely legal people are just figuring out their lives, may not have fully developed brains, and can be pushed into "grooming" relationships.

That being said, she's specifically 25, which falls more into just "age gap."

[(Anonymous)]

IAWTP.

The problem with age gaps in relationships isn't so much the age differential, it's when one person is young and vulnerable and immature. And to me, 25 is just on the other side of that line.

It's really frustrating for someone to try to collapse all the problems people have with age gaps into "calling everything pedophilia".

[(Anonymous)]

I once had a crush on a celeb who was 17 years older than me so I can sympathize with liking an age gap. But a relationship where the man is old enough to be the woman's father is a manifestation of male privilege on a number of levels.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that it's a manifestation of male privilege that the pattern is so slanted in one direction, and it can be a manifestation of male privilege when there's a pattern in one person's behavior (IE, Leo). But I strongly disagree that it's intrinsically a manifestation of male privilege, or intrinsically wrong.

I have a hard time finding a problem with Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor's relationship (in fact, if I'm honest, I find it extremely charming).

[(Anonymous)]

On the other hand, guys are hopelessly stupid until at least 35, so what's a young lady to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree on the male privilege. Yes, she is an 'adult' but it's still rather icky imo

[(Anonymous)]

He's well off and not terrible looking and she's old enough to know what she's doing. I don't see the problem.

[(Anonymous)]

Not as well off as he used to be.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49168731

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it when people talk like age gaps were something inherently dangerous or unethical. ANY kind of partner can be abusive and it's not directly tied to some imbalance in age or wealth or status.

An old geezer might have a weird thing going on if he plainly refuses to date women his own age but, again, that's still not proof that he's hurting anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there's a point where the risks and dangers are too great to the point where it should be considered wrong or at least socially taboo.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it when people talk like age gaps were something inherently dangerous or unethical. ANY kind of partner can be abusive and it's not directly tied to some imbalance in age or wealth or status.

This is exactly my perspective on the issue as well.

There are so many factors that can potentially play into making a relationship unhealthy, or can be completely fine and innocuous.

[tabaqui]

Utterly baffled by 99 percent of the comments here. Young women are, apparently, too utterly ignorant to know when to say no, and older men who fancy them are all, apparently, 'grooming' them for....something.

WTH.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm honestly wondering at what age some of the commenters here feel women are old enough to make their own decision as to who they date without it being 'predatory.' So 25 is too young to do that? Do women have to be 30 before they're considered competent to make relationship decisions? Is there an official age I'm unaware of before I can have a relationship without it being predatory, someone please inform me.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there's a lot of buying into seriously sexist notions about young women going on in this thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of really offensive comments from so called feminists on this. Naturally it's a problem if the older person exclusively dates people who toe the line to childhood (if you're 40 and only date people around 18 years old, that's clearly some creepy messed up shit), but she's not even close to that line (I think someone on here said she's 25).
It's offensive to me how one person on here said the woman cannot be his peer and that's why it's exploitative. They're treating her like a stupid child who cannot be trusted to decide for herself even though she is well into adulthood. To me it looks like two adults who consented to be in a relationship together. When is a woman grown up enough to not be treated like an immature helpless waif even by other women?

[(Anonymous)]

While there's always some idiot alarmist making this about consent, most of these discussions are questioning why many straight men stereotype women under 30 as idealized sexual partners and women over 35 as a kink. And that's reflected in a well-documented bias in media production as well as the dismal dating-app stats. Maybe this is about men's choices in preferred partners, and young women who complain about getting too much sexual attention and middle-aged women who complain not getting any have valid gripes.

I think it's fine.

[(Anonymous)]

And I really don't like it when people assume that a capable adult has little or no agency. Yes, there are things that can lead to a power imbalance in a relationship and yes, maturity levels and experience levels can be part of that and age can be an indicator of those levels, but it's not absolute or universal.

Re: I think it's fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I got married when I was 25 (granted, to another 25 year old) and we're very happy nearly 25 years later.

Kinda glad he's not 75 now though...

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I need to put my two-penneth in here: I (female) met my partner when I was in my early 20s and he (male) was in his 40s. We've been together for 11 years and we're extremely happy and engaged to be wed. But I feel like I need to say, hearing what some people are saying on this thread, that I am the dominant one in our relationship without doubt - my partner may be nearly 60 but he is a BABY lol. This thought that young women are precious flowers with no mind of their own is insane. Mentally, he is 12 and I am 85 ffs *sporfle* People with no experience of age gap love don't half like to waffle on about some nonsense they have no idea about!

[(Anonymous)]

>my partner may be nearly 60 but he is a BABY lol.

Yes, and that's part of the problem. Adult men should think and act like adults. So, thank you for proving the point of how awful this is.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't infantilize young women! That's wrong. The real irresponsible children are middle-aged and senior men.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm happy that you're happy.
But people aren't saying that young women don't have their own minds. They're saying that having a large age difference between partners (especially if the older partner is male) does intrinsically bring with is a power imbalance just because one of the partners is older. It may work for the couple (as it obviously has with you).
In the instance of Michael Sheen, he is a rich, much older actor with a lot of clout and she is a younger 'aspiring actress'. In other words, there is a massive power differential between them. (Different to say when he was dating Sarah Silverman, who is powerful in her own right).
Also, 'mentally he is 12 and I am 85' pretty much proves the point one OP made that some men marry younger because they never want to grow up.

[(Anonymous)]

To me, the issue isn't that she's literally half her age, it's that he was dating age appropriate women, then hit fifty and started dating younger. He stated he was only dating her for two months and suddenly she's pregnant? (He was literally with another woman early this year, which is why I was surprised when he stated he was with this woman. I thought he was still with Aisling Bea(?) so does this mean he cheated on her with this one? Or did they break up and he got with this other woman within a few months and then got her preggers. Fast work!)
Also, it's such a cliche! Actor hits fifty and gets 'aspiring actress/model' half his age preggers (she is only five years older than his own daughter!).
So yeah, in this circumstance I do find it icky and really disappointing.

[(Anonymous)]

That's really fucking creepy OP.