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⌈ Secret Post #4595 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i'm not going to judge a (very satirical) song that was written in 1884 by modern standards

i will note that i did some looking up, and "the lady novelist" was first being changed in 1908 but nobody cared about "the nigger serenader" until the american tour in 1947; i can't get any detail about "the lady from the provinces who dresses like a guy" but presumably that's been changed too by now

[(Anonymous)]

When I saw a production on TV in the 80s the lady novelist and the lady from the provinces were still in there. So I think it varies. I didn't even know the n-word line existed though, and I can't believe I would have missed that.

I think that song is actually meant to be updated with the times and make fun of current events. But there are plenty of people who think the whole operetta is problematic (from an Asian stereotypes point of view) so I haven't listened to it in a long time.

[(Anonymous)]

Though the Crown Prince of Japan loved it when he came to London! Both the productions I've seen were making fun of the British obsession with Japanese things at the time, which I think is a good way to handle it, because it certainly could be done in a very racist way.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm pretty sure that using a fictionalised and exaggerated version of japan to make fun of britain was the entire point from day one

[(Anonymous)]

In the context of the century it was written, "dresses like a guy" probably meant, "dresses dowdily", not, "wears men's clothes". It's a colloquialism that isn't really current now.

I mean, woulda been interesting if the second version is what they meant. But it's likely the first. Shrug.