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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-19 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #4609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4609 ⌋

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Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-20 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Magic? No. Do I believe in the supernatural, yes a bit to a certain extent. There is something out there beyond our understanding. Spirit exists, we aren't just material beings. And I believe in God. And I think the spiritual world occasionally touches the physical. Occasionally. But do I believe that humans have any sort of control over it, no.
Edited 2019-08-20 01:45 (UTC)

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I really, really hope this doesn't come off as snarky, because I swear I don't mean for it to, but it's a question I've never had answered as anything other than "it's different, because reasons."

If you believe in God, then presumably you believe that Jesus performed miracles, right? The walking on water, the turning water to wine, the faith healings, the calming of the storm-- can you explain to me how these things aren't magic? And if they are, how does magic not exist?
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Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-20 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I guess to me magic is humans having some kind control or being able to exert control over things through their own power. I'm not sure you can call God exerting control over things he made magic? I mean, TBH I'm not sure which stories I believe really happened and which ones are just meant for lessons. But I don't think you can really call miracles magic since I'd usually say they are God working through people when I think they actually happened (and I'm generally pretty skeptical because 9 times out of 10 either they didn't happen or it was actually just a rare real life occurrence).

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
"If you believe in God, then presumably you believe that Jesus performed miracles, right?"

Just answering for myself: No, because Christianity is an incoherent theology.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:23 am (UTC)(link)







The Bible literally mentions magic and witches. Just another example of so-called Christians not actually reading their precious Holy Book.
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Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-20 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure how much of it is literal. I'm not the type to take all the stories literally, or even most of it. I don't recall magic being mentioned Supernatural stuff, yes. One mention of an actual witch in the magic sense, though as I recall she herself was pretty shocked when Samuel's ghost appeared, so I think she was more of a charlatan than anything else. And then just mentions of witchcraft in the religious sense.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Check your baggage. She already said she had differed opinions on the legitimacy of certain stories, and which were written for their values. Spirituality is different from Mysticism, and even further from that is the Supernatural. She made that very clear the first time, don't jump just because you heard the word 'God'.