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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-19 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #4609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4609 ⌋

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Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
No. There's no real material or empirical evidence that it exists, so that's not a great start. And philosophically, I don't really believe in any of the structures that would allow magic to exist - I don't believe in an order or structure of the universe, I don't believe in a higher divinity or any kind of universal being or universal force or destiny, I don't believe in essences or intrinsic natures or Platonic entities, I don't believe in any of that. So, no.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
What are your thoughts on luck? If you don't mind me asking.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I don't believe there's really such a thing as good luck or bad luck if that's what you mean. Obviously, there's chance and probability and all of that stuff.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's very interesting, I always find myself swept up in the idea of luck. I really just love hearing different opinions on it.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
You sound insanely miserable. I hate people who are purely logical, I've never seen one person who is who wasn't miserable because to them the only thing to life was to eat, breathe, sleep and reproduce. Everything else you needn't bother with.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
DA

And you sound ugly and bitter. They answered the question, and gave a very well put response as to why. That's what was asked. Take your bullshit somewhere else.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
the only thing to life was to eat, breathe, sleep and reproduce. Everything else you needn't bother with.

I don't agree with this, fwiw.
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Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-08-20 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
for fuck's sake. Disbelief in the supernatural DOES NOT equal this "nothing is worth anything except eating, breathing, sleeping and breeding" bullshit. If that's all you think there is in us atheists' minds you're pathetic. (and P.S. I want nothing to do with pooping out kids either!)

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but much as I sometimes wish that magic/the supernatural/etc existed, I can’t just decide to believe in it because I wish it were true. But I honestly can’t make a connection between “doesn’t believe in magic/religion/etc” and “the only thing to life was to eat, breathe, sleep, and reproduce.”

Just because I don’t believe in (or understand how other people believe in, tbh) magic/religion, doesn’t mean I hold no beliefs or values about life in general or humanity specifically, or that I’m miserable because I believe that if humans want fo be more than machines for turning food into shit and making more humans, it’s up to us to make our lives mean more than that.

Helping other people and living things, treating them with kindness and compassion, taking good care of the environment, making beautiful and interesting things/stories, and leaving the world a better place than if we’d never existed seem like awesome reasons to exist to me, without needing religion or magic to explain them.

And belief in and stories of religion and magic are some of the awesome things people make and do, but not believing in those stories doesn’t make me miserable. I don’t think that belief or lack of belief in the supernatural is necessarily a logic thing. I didn’t arrive at my non-belief by a process of reasoned debate with myself or others. I’ve envied others their sincere belief in magic and/or religion, but I don’t think I’m, idk, better or more logical, or more or less inclined to misery, than people with those beliefs.

If other people use their beliefs, in religion or magic or the lack thereof, as a bludgeon to hurt people that don’t share them, or make the world suck more in general, that’s not cool. But assholes and miserable people can’t all lay claim to one specific set of beliefs, in magic, religion, logic, or whatever else.

Re: Do You Believe in Magic?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-20 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, good answer. And yeah, ditto.