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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-22 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #4612 ]


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Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Setting aside the issue of whether or not you find either costume creepy or you're a-okay with them... do they look the same to you?

That secret was made from a comment left on one of the "secrets you're too lazy to make" threads, and to be honest, I'm not really sure if the person who left it was sincere or just trying to start something. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, though.

Oh and for that one anon who thinks I deliberately made their comment into a racist-looking secret... nah. Your comment was about two live action Disney movies that happened to feature WOC leads. I chose images that reflected those movies. Other users may have commented negatively, but that wasn't me putting a spin on your secret, that was just... your secret. Which to be clear, *I* didn't think was racist, necessarily.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate them both but they do look different to me

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I dislike both, but they're definitely different.

I prefer the musical costume version.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
They don't look alike at all.

I don't know how anyone can even think that. Even if you don't think they're creepy and recognize the characters, they still don't look alike.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
They're cat-flavored humans in skintight costumes. They may be different in the details, but the essence is the same. The internet is severely overreacting to this. Considering some of the comments I've seen on this comm with suggestions on how it *should* have been done (i.e. actual CGI animal cats, adding cat noses to the human faces, etc.) I'm rather glad they went the route the did.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
By your logic, CGI movie trailer Sonic looks just like animated series Sonic because they're both humanoid blue hedgehogs with shoes. Which is definitely an opinion, but not one that you're going to get a lot of people to back you on.
ninety6tears: TLJ Rey (hairstyle from back) (sw: rey)

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-08-23 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Right? Design is the difference between two things with the same “essence.”

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Right? All of this "in essence" bit is bizarre.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Without the human dance choreography there really isn't much point to the show. Much of the music is painfully derivative. The plot is extremely thin and barely developed. If you're not going to have Rum Tum Tugger do a Tim Curry strut to center stage and leer right into the camera, what's the fucking point?

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Found the person who can't see the difference between the two costumes. You're being really weird about this, anon. I mean yeah, the internet is overreacting, because it's too fun not to... but you're glossing over the "different in the details" bit. A rusted out Dodge Dart and a brand new Porsche 911 are both motor vehicles with four wheels, but anyone with eyes can tell you they don't look the same.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Or y'know they could have gone the actual musical route and played it straight. Using the costumes Cats is known for and not have the exact same rendering for every single character like another anon said.
Even if we're talking about literal cats, different breeds have their own unique looks, this is something the musical plays at, something the movie clearly did not care enough to attempt. Both are 'cats', though I'd say the movie is more on the line of 'cat' since everyone has the exact same giant face on a too tiny head. The musical uses makeup to outline different feline features, like the 'cat eye' look, or highlighting the cheekbones in a whisker like design. There is no attempt at makeup in the movie from what I could tell, so all of them looked plainly human. Details are pretty much everything when it comes to the stage, and especially when it comes to CGI. Nobody know's what you're talking about when you say 'essence'.

I recommend you search up the Painting Scene from Black Sails, because that is you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CStgvcobwNQ

Unfortunately this is the best link I can find right now. (Though I'd argue he has a better argument then you do)

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
ITA, anon. Cat-flavored humans sums it up.

If I actually cared about this movie and the play it stems from and the poetry book the play stems from (which I have actually read), then maybe I'd care about the specifics of the character designs, but I don't, so I don't.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Geez you sound pretentious.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
When you swing by a thread to let people know how little you care about the topic being discussed, everyone admires you for how cool you are.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Um...kay?

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thirding this. Where is my T-Swift "You need to calm down" gif, because this thread seriously needs it. People are really, genuinely out here getting offended that you disagree with them about the design of some characters in a movie that's not even out yet.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think the main issue in the movie version is with the headpieces and makeup. The headpieces change the head shape somewhat drastically and I think the costumes need that for stylisation. And while the stage makeup would obviously be too much, they really need something to soften the human features of the faces and make them more cat-like.
There are, in fact, a few roles in the stage version that look similar to the movie versions, namely Cassandra, Coripocat and Tantomile. They were always the strangest looking to me because they, like the movie versions, lack that extra fluff.

The mistake the movie made, imo, is not going the "we change some aspects of the actors' faces to make them look more like furries" route. Going full furry anthro cat might have worked.


I mean, I think Cats is one of the musicals least suited for a pseudo realistic movie adaption. But it could have been done at least slightly better. Some characters just look sad and terrible in the movie (hi Mistoffelees).

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect the person behind all the "looks the same, in essence it's all dancing, singing cats, which, for the record, is STUPID anyway" is Maxwell Sheffield.

Re: Inspired by 12 - Cats the movie vs. Cats the stage musical

(Anonymous) 2019-08-23 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! This is a much better answer than reality.