[ SECRET POST #4612 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4612 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.



__________________________________________________



13.

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 14 secrets from Secret Submission Post #660.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like a lot of "conservative" Trek fans are libertarian meritocracy wonks who think that any problem can be solved by the right clever man, and classic Trek strongly supports the narrative that Kirk just knows better and should be allowed to do it.

So the post-scarcity aspects of Trek are because clever men made scarcity obsolete ("a rising tide lifts all boats") not because the Federation is a welfare state. And libertarians think of themselves as the clever men.

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

The Heinleinites, you might say.

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT: Exactly. Personally, I find myself increasingly in the cyberpunk future.

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

The socialism in Star Trek wasn't done by wealth redistribution, it was accomplished by technology that provided for all. Also they must have done away with corporatism- which the left today fantastically fails to address.

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

please expand

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, fully automated luxury gay space communism. I don't think that's really a good explanation for the Federation as shown, but no one ever accuses Trek of being rigorous on any level. We're told that capitalism is obsolete in the Federation, and that's about it.

Re: I can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

SA: That vagueness is what allows for Heinleinites to write themselves into Star Trek history as the clever guys who invent fully automated luxury gay space communism. I don't find that entirely convincing, since I think we're careening into one of the failure modes predicted by Adam Smith. But it's not incompatible with the text.

And then there are the people (including many Puppies) who just want the traditional adventure stories in space and treat the economics as the same sort of treknobabble as the show's physics or biology.