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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-24 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #4614 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4614 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
OP: "Other factors affect this, such as cast, genre, distribution..."

Also OP: "Why aren't you watching this show, people who have never heard of it or don't like its genre? It must be because you don't really care about diversity! If you did, you'd all like the show I like! It's special and different from other shows and the same factors don't apply!"

Uhhhhhhhhh

This train of thought is a mess

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, not to be all "that's why it's a secret", but that's probably why it's a secret

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
How so? Both things can be true at the same time.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really.

OP explicitly says that they don't agree with the idea that "if everyone who said they liked diversity was being honest, project X would be more popular" and then they also say "if everyone who cared about diversity was being honest, Tales of the City would be more popular"

It's a pretty direct contradiction... like... I really don't see how you can interpret your way around it. they even say themselves that it makes them a hypocrite! and it's honestly OK, it's an emotional thing, it's natural to want to have more fans for the thing you like.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

OP also implies they believe a multi factor idea of causes or constitutes popularity, then goes on to display that they really don't. It's not exactly hypocrisy, I don't know what you'd call it, but it's not correct either

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Both things as in you believe OPs show is different and special and the factors don't apply to this one show out of a thousand?

I think you misunderstood the second part of the comment you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
OP of the original comment:

I mean, yes, that's why I said that it makes me a hypocrite. But to be clear, I'm not talking about people liking the show or thinking it's special or different than other shows. I just find it weird that, given how shows/movies are often criticized for not being more diverse, a show that is very diverse has gone by seemingly completely unnoticed by everyone.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, and that's what everyone says about every other diverse show too.

When in reality most people have never heard of most of them, including this one.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-24 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Also, how people will also often talk about or promote supporting diverse projects but then this particular project, which isn't just about diversity on-screen but also has a very diverse cast and writing team, is completely unnoticed. I don't know if I'm articulating myself well, but it feels very weird to me.

(An anon in the original thread pointed out that the history surrounding the canon might actually be hurting it now, as new viewers feel alienated, which I can see. I still find the lack of attention baffling, though.)