[ SECRET POST #4614 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4614 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone have some recs for comics that defy this trend? The only one I'm able to think of off the top of my head is Depression Comix, which isn't really a 'traditional' serial webcomic but does have a general cast, which is fairly diverse and deliberately so (to show that mental illness affects all people, rather than specifically for 'woke points').

[(Anonymous)]

Funnily enough, I think Oglaf is actually fairly good at casually including queer characters without making a big fuss about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to suggest Oglaf! It's all races and sexualities in a sepia-toned fuckfest, and it doesn't come off as shoving it into your face or making a point.

[(Anonymous)]

Well not shoving diversity in your face anyway >.>

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the one who mentioned MA3 above, and the only reason I didn't bring up Oglaf is that it doesn't have much of a regular cast.

[(Anonymous)]

Order of the Stick
Sleepless Domain
Namesake
Sister Claire (I means you'd probably hate it just because every character is queer intentionally, never mind that it has a good story ~despite~ that)
Unsounded
Peritale
Blindsprings

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Sister Clair? Are you fucking kidding? That is one big mess of tokenism and woke check-boxing. It's not that they're all queer on purpose. That by itself is pretty cool. It's that she basically traced everyone else's characters, made them more stereotypicalwoke representation and made sure every woke box she could possibly check was checked.

Her cutesy generic-animu meets power puff girls doesn't work for the heavy story she's trying to tell. On top of all of that she blurs out the pages and posts a trigger warning you have to click through to read the latest page any time there's something upsetting on the page, which by itself is a good idea, but with her it's for things like a character essentially drooling or super-cartoony blood. My favorite thing is when she would post trigger warning and then leave the inspiration for the scary artwork uncensored in her comment under the page, so if you scrolled down to see if you could handle the trigger, you'd get smacked in the face with stuff like Watership Down gifs and body horror that was all a lot scarier than anything she could draw.

The story itself was pretty good though if you could manage to ignore all the woke points she was working for. It got to the point I couldn't.

[(Anonymous)]

You guys: "I don't have a problem with diversity in webcomics, it's just that the stories with them are never good!"

Me: "Okay, here are some diverse webcomics with good stories."

Y'all: "Okay this one's story is good, but there's all this diverse wokeness in the way!"

Aaaaand the obvious truth is out.

[(Anonymous)]

- dunno

- don't think it counts? all main characters are female with sexual inclinations not particularly described. i guess there's a variety of different kinds of girls included, but they're still all girls under the same general dystopian culture, ethnicity doesn't mean much when they're really all single culture.

- i do find the intentional everyone is absolutely queer silly, and it makes the world seem very...fake? you have to wince hard to accept that is just how this world works, but yeah, as long as you just swallow that setting, story's good. probably fits the best to the OP's description out of the ones i know.

- dunno.

- couldn't get into the story, not really much into the art. matter of preference.

- don't think it counts as checking minority boxes either, since there's a total of like, one gay character? the rest are left unknown because it's not relevant to the plot and i appreciate that.

[(Anonymous)]

ethnicity doesn't mean much when they're really all single culture

The culture in the comic doesn't matter. Stories that take place in societies where race and gender don't matter are still diverse because they're written in the real world and read by people for whom those things do matter.

There's also the fact that at least one of the main characters is either lesbian or bi, and there's another magical girl who's trans.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't agree with the culture thing, just because characters look like me doesn't mean I'll identify with them because they look like me. It's like telling Asian-Americans to identify with Asian media just because they look alike. Yes, the racial diversity is there, but it's not trying to force cultural diversity into the story, which I think is a good thing. Stories where authors try to force in different cultures without finding a good place for them in their story is where it becomes like ticking boxes for diversity.

I'm pretty sure any sexual orientation for the main characters is pure speculation at this point, unless the author talked about it elsewhere beyond the comic, which I don't pay attention to. I remember there being one actual lesbian couple? But they barely made an appearance, and two confirmed lesbians out of a cast of 20? girls is barely notable. One trans girl is also barely notable in a cast of so many girls. That's the good thing about having more girls overall, each individual is allowed to be more different without needing to check ALL the diversity boxes.

[(Anonymous)]

"Pure speculation" because other Kokoro asking Undine out to dinner while blushing and then being asked by another girl if she likes Undine and getting flustered and saying she doesn't know instead of "Uh no I'm straight" is puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure speculation.

[erinptah]

...I mean, yes, but different readers have different ideas of what qualifies as "something interesting happens."

Oglaf is mostly random sex jokes -- that's not going to grab everyone, even though it's well-done. The Rock Cocks is a fun, light story about up-and-coming rock stars who also have a bunch of sex -- if what you really like is SF/F, that's not going to satisfy. O Human Star is SF with family drama and a robotics revolution, but what if OP is bored by anything lower-stakes than political intrigue and spaceship battles?

Skin Horse, The Hazards of Love, Magical How, Sanity Circus, Alice and the Nightmare, broken, Strong Female Protagonist, The Stoop-Gallants, Cucumber Quest, Spacetrawler, Tamberlane -- all have LGBTQ casts with racial diversity (not counting the ones that are mostly animals). Love 'em all. And I have two of my own that I happen to think are pretty good.

But they cover a whole range of genres, plots, and themes. Can't guarantee any of them fit OP's interests (or yours) (or anyone else's) without having more to go on.

[(Anonymous)]

How to Be a Werewolf! There's queer folks, diversity, a FANTASTIC plot and great worldbuilding and the slowburniest of slowburn relationships. Highly recommend.

Also, seconding Order of the Stick.

May I also point towards Dumbing of Age? Yes, yes I may.