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⌈ Secret Post #647 ⌋

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[Heroes]

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[Avatar]

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[Heath Ledger]

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[The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack]

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Uhm........No? Look, I'll find equal ground with you here. My OTP is based on hate and disregard for the safety of each other. Nnoitra breaks Nell's head, Nell nearly kills him. The whole reason they don't work as a couple in Zutara isn't because they're completely unhealthy when it comes to disagreement (on a more common ground than my OTP? I want a man who WILL disagree with me) but that they're GENUINELY not meant for each other. I didn't need Mike and Bryan to make it fanon to make me feel that way.

It's not about all the things he's done, it's just their natures. Zutara is not so much fiery as hard to completely come to just with, it's based on lust and pretentious ness. It's not as if Aang and Katara never disagreed (Katara even has to think over their relationship) and Mai and Zuko definitely disagreed. But Zuko is the kind of person who needs to do what he wants and Katara has shown herself as a person who cannot do things in a way like that. She is in a position where the greatest kind of relationship for her would be a nurturing and understanding one. The 'Forbidden Love' skit was completely rude but it had a point, Zuko can't talk about his feelings and Katara can.

The only time Katara can really relate to Zuko is when she's mad enough to finally spit out how she really feels. Zuko barely said anything to Mai, and she's the girl he's canonly with. He can't muster up a lot for even Iroh, his uncle. He does what he does and he has to function that way, and someone like Katara really isn't good that way because she's the type of person who is group support. If someone just leaves her she would be more offended than even Mai, who read the letter to Zuko angrilly, because her relationships function on trust and moral support.

Zuko just needs to be alone sometimes, MAi just needs to be alone sometimes. Katara isn't good with Zuko because they're disagreeing isn't even on a healthy level anymore, it's all about being completely mismatched. They make good friends because from a third person perspective Katara can critisize Zuko's decisions and she wouldn't feel as hurt to see him go, but a relationship is a two partner thing and the way Zuko functions in those kinds of things is just not what Katara needs at all. I think a lot of people want to think about Zuko when it comes to Zutara, but Katara really is the kind of person to need emotional support. Zuko hugged her once after pretty much going on a journey that she needed but.. that he wasn't helping in at all.

He nurtured her angry feelings because of his inability to forgive his own father when it came to his mother. Aang was faced with a situation in which he had to kill someone who'd caused him and his friends great pain, but he can't because of who he is. As weird as it is that twerpy 12 year old is the kind of stable and caring person Katara needs. Pairings and disliking pairings aren't simply black and white. I've always felt that hatred and past mistakes can be sewn, but what really matters is the ultimate feelings of someone involved in the relationship.

If Mai got suddenly left she wouldn't be as upset by it, at this point she's come to realize the things people have to do. She even saved his life and came to a reasonable understanding when he left her. In all honesty if I, the amazing hate-love crackshipping cuckoo nut, don't see it then I probably will never be convinced, and if you love it then you will likely never be convinced either. But I felt like sharing my opinion. Good luck in shipping! Also I think your idea of a relationship IS healthy, your ships just a little off for me to take it the same way you do. Anyway, have fun! I gave up avatar fandom so I don't have to be wanked on TOO badly for this..xD

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Edited 2008-10-13 22:47 (UTC)

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Kickass. Do I get to break the damage limit or is this some older version of The Game?

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I can't believe I just read that whole thing... oO
You made some really great points though, and I definitely agree.

Haha, I got bored!
I try! ..I dunno, I'm tired of hearing about it now? I just want to love the ending in peace.

How was the "Forbidden Love" skit rude? It was just having fun. Shippers shouldn't be so damn uptight that they can't recognize playful celebration.

Other than that, your analysis is amazingly insightful.

...to be honest I loved it and found it amazingly hilarious! But I know it has offended Zutarians so I wanted to try and be polite about it.

Oh dude I just read your essays and such yesterday...you have some good points yourself! XD

Oh, thanks! What essays did you read, if I may?

I wish the Zutarians it pissed off would recognize that it was a tribute to their imagination and their tremendous support of the show, even when their perception was a little off.

I read the one you linked on someone elses essay, one refuting every claim of proof you had at the time. Another one I read was where you were retorting an angry Zutara fan's criticism of the show. You did a great job! I get so sick of..all the whining, really.

Yeah what they don't realize is most fandom creators don't interact with their fans on nearly the same level. I swear Mike and Bryan tried to give them at least some credit, but alas...nope. Bryke hates them.

Oh, you read my angry anti-Zutara rants! Yeeeeah, I had a lot of those...

Reminds me a lot of the Harry/Hermione fiasco, but then I never understood why "anvil-sized hints" is all that offensive.

So, question.

Why Nel/Nnoitra? Maybe it's just that I have a problem with ol' spoon-head, but I don't get it and I'm curious.

I actually have a lot of people ask me. This is why:
http://community.livejournal.com/nnoinel/12923.html#cutid

And don't worry MOST dislike ol' spoony head. Nnoitra can be an asshole, but it's really Nnoitra's relationship with Nell that redeemed him for me. JUST READ IT.

I would read more? I don't know. One day I came into Avatar fandom, the very same day I said "..hey could you not bash maiko? I just want to enjoy my ship" and this ANGRY ZUTARA FAN bit my head off about how I bash her ship and I'm like...I just came to fandom dood!

It's not just that he's an asshole, it's also that his whale teeth frighten me.

And yeah, that's a typical response. WEIRDLY ENOUGH, I never see the same kind of bashing from Maiko fans.

Yeah but I got used to it with enough fanart, haha. But the essay pretty much sums it up for me, can't say much more.

..Me either X_X

I must respectfully say that we're at a bit of an impasse. I think that we just have very different views on some of the characters and their relationships.

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