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fandomsecrets2008-10-14 05:01 pm
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[ SECRET POST #648 ]
⌈ Secret Post #648 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[FF7; Crisis Core]
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[Parting Glances; Steve Buscemi]
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[Transformers movie/New Knight Rider]
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[Creepy houses in Stephen King novels]
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[Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's]
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[Dexter]
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[Looking for Group webcomic]
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[Supernatural]
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[Persona 3; Minato/Aigis]
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[Dallas]
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[To the Manor Born]
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[BNFs?]
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[Jonathan Coulton/Portal]
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[Prince of Tennis]
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[Pushing Daisies]
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[House MD]
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[Emma Watson]
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[The French Revolution?/Shipping]
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[The Dark Knight]
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[Prince of Tennis musical]
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[Kiefer Sutherland]
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[Spongebob Squarepants; Squidward]
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[*secret comms]
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[Fullmetal Alchemist]
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[CHUCK NORRIS]
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[Fullmetal Alchemist]
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[Batman Begins; Scarecrow]
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[Henry Rollins]
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Because it's fun? I don't think you need a special reason...
Really, it's just a type of character development to explore. It's no different from exploring a friendship or a familial relationship.
Maybe I see some value in the emotional of the platonic without believing that the platonic must extend beyond the emotional into sexual territory for it to be the strongest emotional bonds.
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's the implication that something is lost, or worse, sullied when romance is introduced that annoys me.
I suppose that implies that all of the relationships must be 'hot' to extend into that territory.
I think you're looking at it from the wrong "direction", so to speak. It's not that we think that a relationship must be hot to be significant; we think a romance could be hot because their relationship is already significant.
it generally supports the individual’s disconnect between their own individual femininity and their desire for an emotional/romantic bond. I
Really? I can't say I've noticed this to be a major motivator in the slash/yaoi fandom (though I've heard a few fans mentioning it). And I've been in it for about nine years now!
There are many slash fans that in many cases are highly anti-female
Yeah, mostly the new, inexperienced (in fandom culture, that is) fans who are dazzled by their discovery of the slash/yaoi phenomenon. They tend to huddle together in parts of the fandoms until they learn better. Their behaviour is not approved of by the rest of the slash/yaoi fandom.
Pure het fans simply can’t see past gender
Really? I didn't know that. I don't think I've ever considered gender as a factor when connecting to characters.
much of slash actually closely resembles more of an emotional bond that is more feminine than it is masculine.
I don't like to use those terms, as I think they're social constructs that are ultimately not very good for either men or women. I'm going to be revolutionary and state that men have the same emotional needs as women.
Why is there a rift?
Is there such a big rift? Most (sane) fans tend to like both, if not in fanfic (I strictly read slash/yaoi or gen fanfic, but my favourite love story is still Pride and Prejudice). I mean, I can only speak for the slash/yaoi side, but the "ew, het" opinion is seen as idiotic, and so is valuing one type of relationship above another for other reasons than personal taste. That's not to say that these opinions don't exist, but they're not the general views of the slash/yaoi fandoms.
in many fandoms, I believe slash is also developed as the social norm
I think this is more true of certain communities in a particular fandom than the fandom itself. Ideally the fandom should be as open to slash/yaoi as to het, of course, but the balance will rarely be perfect, as one can't control people's tastes.
Yet, to reach out and form a personal story to move along with the original work to fulfill personal desires works beyond something that can be simply addressed as ‘same’.
Do you mean "same as the canon"? Because the essence of fanfic is, I think, "what if". How far people are willing to go in their exploring differs; some will be content with "what if this is what character X feels in this particular scene?" while others want to know "what if character X fell in love with character Y?" or even "what if Spiderman were a Japanese onmyouji?"
Some people would say that only some "what ifs" can be written plausibly. I think every "what if" is potentially possible; it's all in the execution. The important part is not what characters do, it's that they stay themselves while doing it.
Phew, that was lengthy!