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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-14 04:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #4635 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4635 ⌋

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Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know how to put this into words precisely. I can't stand slapped on diversity crap.

For me that would be things like reboot racial swaps, which are a total and utter cop out.

On the other hand, things like B99 where excellent characters are used to tell relevant and sometimes poignant stories about the world today - e.g. that episode where Terry gets arrested by a cop in his own neighbourhood) = totally fine.

Can we please have some GOOD and NEW stories and GOOD and NEW characters and make those diverse. FFS.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What I don't get is why people act like it has to be one or the other.

I tend to be OK with racial and gender swap reboots, only in the sense that like... clearly, we're going to be drowning in reboots one way or another, so they might as well be diverse, and it marginally increases the chance that they'll actually be something new or interesting about the reboots. But even if you really don't care for them... it's still not an either-or.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
My problem with like... 99% of "race-swaps" is that it's literally just slapping a brown coat of paint on a white character without actually changing anything else about that character. And like, I get it, we're supposed to be "colorblind" and think everyone is the same and all that but that erases so many lived experiences that brown and black people have that color their perceptions and how they engage with the world-- experiences that white people genuinely will just never have had. So race-swaps feel disingenuous at best, dangerously close to blackface at worst.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree. Hopefully the creators will put more thought into The Little Mermaid than "ta-da, Ariel is POC!" For example, even in context it could be awkward to hear her sing "Part of Your World" to a rich white male. It's already kind of weird that the one race-swapped princess is non-human.

Obviously I think it's great they're making an effort to be diverse, but there's an element of pandering that can be distasteful and even regressive.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it depends on what you're talking about, does it? That doesn't necessarily have to be the case in - for example - scifi and fantasy things.

And it's also a little hard because, after all, black and brown peoples' lived experiences are also different from each other.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-14 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

(Anonymous) 2019-09-15 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
But reboots (and remakes, reimaginings, blah blah) are just the currency of the world we live in now. You're either okay with all of it or none of it. Recasting some of the characters with actors of color is the least of the problem, because chances are they were going to do it anyway, with or without race swapping.