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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-10-15 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #649 ]


⌈ Secret Post #649 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Angels in America]


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[Transformers; Optimus Prime]


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[Hugh Jackman (as Wolverine from X-Men)]


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[One Piece; Sanji/Usopp]


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[Batman; Scarecrow vs Cillian Murphy]


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[Jesus Christ Superstar; Homestar Runner]


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[Code Geass]


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[Supernatural]


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[Yamane Ayano?]


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[One Piece; Roronoa Zoro]


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[Metalocalypse, Charles Ofdensen]


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[FLCL]


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[World of Warcraft]


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[Gintama]


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[Disney's Tarzan]


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[Eyeshield 21]


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[Harry Potter & Death Note fanfiction]


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[Metalocalypse; Axis Powers Hetalia]


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[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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[Queer as Folk]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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[Chronicles of Narnia]


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[Pirates XXX]


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[Professor Layton and the Curious Village]


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[Yami no Matsuei]


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[Avatar]


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[Ouran; Nekozawa]



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Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 146 secrets from Secret Submission Post #093.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
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Re: REPEAT #3

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I understand personal rape fantasies. Most people have them. But even then there's an element of control and safety; you know deep down that it's someone you're familiar with, trusting them with your permission to stick to a given situation. Even when I read a fanfiction and it involves non-con, I consider it a terrifying, depressing element, and I feel horrible for the one experiencing it.

What if it's supposed to be a negative element, though? I love doing horrible things to characters I love -- not ones I hate, strangely enough! -- as long as it's happy in the end or has a chance of being so (lol I cannot do deathfic >_>). Torture (physical or psychological), rape, near-death, etc. The reactions and aftereffects that everyone has to go through as the result of such events are fascinating and appealing to me as a writer/reader.

Also, you're equating wanting to see fictional characters get raped/molested with wanting to see real people get raped/molested, which Does Not Work. And which is actually pretty demeaning to people who do get raped or molested in real life. Some people just like the utterly out of control element of rape fantasies in fiction. Just because you're fantasizing about a person who is not real, in a not-real situation, instead of yourself in a not-real situation, doesn't make it any worse.

Re: REPEAT #3

(Anonymous) 2008-10-16 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
Some people just like the utterly out of control element of rape fantasies in fiction.

And some people write rape fiction because 'those uppity bitches deserve to be taken down a peg'.

Or is that part of the "out of control element" as well? I'm not really versed in the subtleties of rape fiction.

Re: REPEAT #3

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no. That's... actually kind of majorly unsettling. Not even just because they'd wish rape because of hate, but because they're unbalanced enough to actually hate someone who's not real that much. In that case, I'd actually say that the fact that they're wishing rape on a character is in the same area of fucked up as wishing rape on a person, if only because to get to that level of hate for a character it seems they'd have to be thinking of the character on a more real, personal level anyway. That sort of thing is definitely fucked up, but I tend to think the whole "LET'S CAUSE THIS PERSON PAIN BECAUSE I HATE THEM" attitude is fucked up anyway. Something done out of hate will never be a healthy thing.

By "out of control element" I mean that part of the appeal with rape fiction and rape fantasies is imagining someone, whether yourself or the character, in a situation where they have no control over the proceedings of the situation. This is a good deal of the attraction for rape fantasies and just BDSM (and in some cases, some people in BDSM choose safewords that don't disrupt the scene, or prefer not to have safewords at all, for that reason). There's something attractive to many people about being out of control, and that's part of the appeal of rape/non-con/whatever written as being "sexy," just as any of the other fantasies. There's no one involved that it can possibly hurt, there's no personal danger, and so it's attractive. And the very things that make it attractive keep rape from being something these people would ever want in real life, for themselves or anyone else.