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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-23 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4644 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4644 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-09-23 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s depressing to me. I finally thought, here’s a fandom where surely there CAN’T be that many ship wars or divisive fighting, but people just keep proving me wrong. I’m getting jaded. I’m beginning to truly believe that fandoms can’t exist without trying to tear each other’s throats out over totally inconsequential bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-23 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You would think so, but even here we had our round of "how dare you call them gay, when there's this line from the book" vs. "don't you know what gay coding is, sweaty!"

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Sweaty OR sweetie?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
"sweaty" is "sweetie" with extra condescension.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-30 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Whenever I see someone use 'sweaty' I think they're an idiot who can't spell and aren't worth listening to anyway. Which is how I assume it started rather than "you're drenched in perspiration"; that or someone was mocking the 'sweetie ur wrong' and the idiots tried to claim it unironically.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
You have to be delusional to read "people often assumed Aziraphale was gay, but they are wrong about it" and think of it as "gay coding".

And then those same people complain that Dumbledore's "we were closer than brothers!" line wasn't explicit enough about his sexuality and bash Rowling over this, while praising Gaiman to high heavens. Male privilege is one hell of a drug!

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not that I'm one of those who consider Good Omens amazing representation of anything, but to be fair that line is from the book written 30 years ago. Gaiman seems to have approached the much more recent TV version a little differently, adding a break-up scene that an extra even comments on in case the viewer didn't pick up on it, identifying Aziraphale's "discreet gentleman's club" as an actual historical gay club in case THAT was unclear, etc.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Television production != book. Book != television production.

2. You do realize that we're talking about the author/producer who has developed over a dozen explicitly LGBTQ characters across multiple media in 30 years, including several that are currently in production this year.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
SA: I mean, for fuck's sake "Hold Me" (Hellblazer) was one of the first comics from a mainstream publisher to directly deal with the irrational phobia of touching HIV+ gay men in 1990.

But, Good Omens (the teleplay) is a story about two people who gradually come to realize that the forbidden bonds they have with each other are something worth defying thousands of years of history to affirm. Arguing that we can't queer that metaphor probably isn't a hill you want to die on.