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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-23 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4644 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4644 ⌋

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Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
People who warn but not... IDK, at the right level?
I read a fic that had 'mention of animal abuse' in the tags, and what it actually had was an extremely graphic description of a horrible, genuinely sickening, act of cruelty. It was possibly the worst act of animal cruelty I've ever seen in fiction. And now, because the author didn't tag appropriately, it's in my head and I'm never going to get it out.

There's also the much more common problem of tagging a fic with 'dubious consent', and then I read it and go, "Uh, no, that's full-on rape. She's been drugged and abducted and is being menaced with a large knife, how are you not getting that this is rape."

Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
re rape in fics, I noticed that if a scene is not too upsetting or if the character somehow enjoyed themself it tugged dubcon even though it's clearly rape irl.

Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
No dude, that's called "noncon".
In fanfic, rape is "Actual vaguely realistic sexual assault where one or more parties does not give meaningful or informed consent". Noncon is your bodice ripper business "Oh no we mustn't, stop at once, oh that's nice keep going". Dubcon is, like, maybe they're both tipsy? Or one of them's not sure about it but doesn't tell the other? Or it's otherwise a bit fuzzy.
There's a reason the archive warning on AO3 is "Rape/Noncon". Noncon is sexy rape. I have no issue with people writing noncon. I just want them to know that, yeah, when you threaten someone with a large knife into staying on the bed and not fighting back, what's happening is not is any way dubiously consensual.

Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-24 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I thought "no -> keep going" is dub-con. I guess I've never read fic archieves guidlines and just learned it this way by fandom osmosis. I'll brush up on my definitions if I ever publish something along these lines.