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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-27 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #4648 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4648 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I would assume that it's less about finding a dog and more about live animals being a PITA to work with if you can avoid it? IDK tho

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Huskies And German Shepherds don't look very alike.
2. They also don't look like wolves. Wolves are much, much bigger. So some CGI would still be needed.
3. Filing with any ol' pound dog just doesn't work. Movie animals are trained for quite a while, usually. And its often quite stressful, especially if the animal isn't used to it.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Most people have no idea what size wolves are. They'd be fine with it being smaller than it is.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you one of those people?

I cant imagine someone looking at a husky or german shepherd and being like "yeah boy, that's a wolf" unless they aren't familiar with both animals.

Huskies are pretty small. They aren't even considered "large" dogs. They're like 50 pounds.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wolves are about 5 times the size of a husky. Doesnt matter if people know that or not. Huskies are far, far too small.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2019-09-28 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The dog playing the Tramp in the live action Lady and the Tramp remake is a shelter dog.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Huskies don't look like wolves. GSDs also don't look like wolves. They also don't look like each other. Mixes of them don't look like wolves.

I don't think you know what wolves look like.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
But you can get crossbreeds of those dogs that look like wolves. That is what they used for direwolves.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's just literally wrong.

What they used are Northern Inuit dogs (avg. weight ~100lb) not huskies (avg. weight ~50lb).

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
In b4 someone goes "but huskies were one of 4-5 different breeds they used to create the Northern Inuit!" That doesn't make something a husky mix any more than a Bichon Frise is a poodle mix just because poodle was one of the lines it came from.

For a smaller dog that actually resembles a wolf, look up the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. Also ~50lb, but much closer to wolf in looks than a husky.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you high?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You have literally never seen a wolf, have you?
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[personal profile] nightscale 2019-09-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk I kinda like the terrible CGI as part of the charm of those kinds of shows.

That and I imagine that getting a bunch of trained dogs to play were-wolves is probably more expensive than adding in a CGI wolf?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-27 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Huskies and German Shepherds do not look like wolves whatsoever, and it's more of a joke to pass one off as a wolf than to try a cgi wolf

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
No.

We have enough problems in the US w/ law enforcement mistaking huskies for wolves w/o Hollywood adding fuel to the flames. This is also how people get duped into thinking they are getting wolfdog crosses and aren't. CGI is fine.

There are performance wolves they could hire in the US and probably in Europe. Britain managed to kill all their wolves. (But hey, panthers escaped the zoo and they have wild those now.)

Also, echoing that wolves look nothing like huskies and German shepherds. Red wolves (endangered) have similar coloring to cattle dogs, but that's about it.
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2019-09-28 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
(99% of) people shouldn't have wolfdogs anyway, so that's good. Dupe away!

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, not really so good. If they think they have a wolfdog and tell others it's ~totally easy~ and everyone should get one, the interest in owning wolfdogs rises and leads to more wolfdogs. Some of those will be fake, others will be real, but the overall number rises. Which is a bad thing.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I mean there's no way a shepherd could pass for a wolf without heavy after effects anyway... and even a big husky/husky mix won't look right to someone who knows wolves. So I get why they use CGI even though it's not a perfect solution. The dogs who are big enough for the scale to be right with people don't have a wolfy enough look, the dogs who are a little more wolf-shaped are a little small, and the eyes aren't right...

For some things, I'd think the solution would be a professional trainer with a wolf mix, but that doesn't always work for a shoot either.

Might as well use a cat...

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Looks almost as much like a wolf as a husky or a German Shepard.

I don't know about that.

(Anonymous) 2019-09-28 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there are actual wolf-mix dogs that look enough like wolves and can be trained that it could be feasible in some cases (like Jed, an American-Canadian animal actor, who was in White Fang (1991), The Journey of Natty Gann (1985), and The Thing (1982). He was a Canadian timber wolf-Alaskan Malamute). I think the problem comes from how they are used in movies. I mean, if it's as a pet, it's not a huge problem, but they are often presented as something the human characters have to fight. As I understand it, training any animal to pretend attack and be aggressive can have a lot of pitfalls. Then there's the insurance and the actors having to work with the animals in that manner. Plus, there's the added pretend violence against the animals that could be very tricky.
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[personal profile] ozfroggirl 2019-09-28 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This is how big a wolf-dog actually is (Wolf/German Shepard/Husky cross).

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1176921217649053698

(Anonymous) 2019-09-29 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree