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The real problem with the notorious epilogue, I think, is not the (admittedly terrible) names - it's that JK spent 7 books showing us that the wizarding world was a mess, hidebound and insular and selfish, and the epilogue shows us that the protagonists have grown up and... Done nothing at all to change that.
Malfoys and Weasleys still hate each other, Harry's apparently never told his kids about Slytherin war heroes, and Ron's out giving muggles brain damage and isn't that jolly?

There's going to be another Voldemort or Grindelwald in 40-50 years, and everyone's going to gasp and cry 'How could this happen?' like it's some great mystery.

...damn, that's depressingly true.

I'd heard that she wrote the epilogue before anything else and then didn't change a word of it. And honestly, I think it's her own biases that keep everything the same in the end.

That's like the writers of How I Met Your Mother having to do a hard swerve to Ted/Robin 6 seasons after we all realised they weren't right for each other because they only filmed one ending with the kids from the first episode... But with so much less justification!

(Why do I still remember this bit of trivia...?)

While there's a reasonable chance this is true, I also very clearly remember reading around the time of the third book that Rowling was planning to have the last word of the last book be "scar". I almost flipped to the last page of "Deathly Hallows" on the day I got it just to see if it was true, but was talked out of it because of potential spoilers. So I was a little surprised to see that it ended with "All was well" instead. That memory makes me think that she did change the ending, at least a little.

She could have said both at different times. JKR is a little prone to editorialising her writing history, I think - I mean, does anyone actually believe "Nagini was always secretly a cursed Korean woman with an Indian name and no problem with eating rats"?

Malfoys and Weasleys still hate each other, Harry's apparently never told his kids about Slytherin war heroes, and Ron's out giving muggles brain damage and isn't that jolly?

Well, that's a take.

don't call me muggle, honky

Ron's out giving muggles brain damage?

He had to use magic on the examiner to pass his driving test. Mind-altering magic. We do recall some of the victims of mind-altering magic we see in the books, don't we?

Well damn. What's even the point of getting a license if you're a wizard anyways? Yeesh.

"...Ron's out giving muggles brain damage and isn't that jolly?"

Wait, what?

WTF am i forgetting? Wasn't the epilogue just them sending their kids off to Hogwarts on the train?

DA. At the platform Ron was talking about getting his driver's license and how he'd used mind magic to get it because he'd failed the test.

Ah. Hrmmmmmmm.

Brain damage seems a bit...much.

(different, different anon)
Right, because Lockheart definitely wasn't permanently damaged by mind magic. Or Bertha Jorkins. Or the muggle bloke they inexplicably had working the gate at the Quiddich World Cup. They were all totally fine.

I have no idea about the 'muggle bloke', and don't remember who/what Bertha Jorkins was. Lockheart's 'erasing memory' or whatever spell backfired on him and so, yes, his memory was fucked up.

If a random muggle who was spelled to see a 'pass' instead of 'fail' got brain damage, i (and you) have no idea. Seems unlikey that something like that would cause *damage*.

*shrug*

Who knows. I don't even remember Ron saying that.

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Bertha_Jorkins

'[...] Hermione didn't believe I could pass a Muggle driving test, did you? She thought I'd have to Confund the examiner.' [...] 'As a matter of fact, I did Confund him,' Ron whispered to Harry
pg 604

......i didn't not believe you/op, just had zero memory of those people.
Ms Jorkins seems to have been hit with an extreme version of the spell - her brain damage seemed to be an outlier, rather than the expected outcome.

Didn't Ron become an Auror (again, no clue, haven't read the last book in ages)? Would an Auror or any witch/wizard be allowed to go around randomly brain-damaging a Muggle?

No, erasing people's memories isn't nice, or acceptable. But saying they have brain damage is a bit of a stretch.

nayrt but dude
dude
you're sure that the wizard cops totally wouldn't hurt people who can't defend themselves in a way that can't be traced back to said wizard cops
you're sure

seriously?

I'm pretty sure The Cursed Child retcons that. I looked over the early parts this weekend and am 80% sure Ron says Hermione didn't think he'd pass his test without magic.

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