[ SECRET POST #4650 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4650 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

[(Anonymous)]

I violently hated Kirk's line at Spock's funeral in WoK about Spock's soul being the most human he'd ever encountered. It just seemed to make light of everything Spock had spent his lifetime struggling with regarding his dual heritage, and to have that be his eulogy actually did upset me.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

[(Anonymous)]

Spock may have worked bury his human nature, but he learned to accept it as the series went on. Kirk saying he had a human soul isn't demeaning or making light of his past struggles, imo. So I disagree.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

[(Anonymous)]

Except Kirk made no mention of his vulcan soul. He lauded Spock as if Spock had been completely human. The most human. Spock had two natures, and Kirk chose to honor the one that happened to be closest to his own, ignoring the other. Which is a little ironic, considering that it was Spock's vulcan soul, the katra, that saved his life.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

[(Anonymous)]

Kirk choosing to only mention his humanity was a statement, not a way to exclude his Vulcan half. He means it in the way of a complement. That his soul was more pure and true than anyone else's. In the way Bones always called Spock a computer or heatless, Kirks statement contests that. I'm doing a really shitty job at trying to explain myself, and I get what you're getting at, but I just don't agree.

Re: Secrets you can't be bothered making a post for

[(Anonymous)]

I know he meant it as a compliment. But that's the problem. That the only way he can say that a soul is pure and true is to say it's human. That the only way he can compliment a man who was half-alien, who was raised on his father's planet, who struggled for years with dual identities, was to laud only one half of what he was.

I know it's partly a language problem in Trek and sci-fi in general. But in a world with other species, using 'human' to mean all that is good and pure and empathetic in the universe is not a compliment. It comes across that you hold human values above theirs, and that the only beings of value are the ones you think are like yourself. I know that's not what Kirk meant. But intention is only half the equation.