[ SECRET POST #4657 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4657 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 37 secrets from Secret Submission Post #667.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Where is the line between rule breaking being reported and 'tattle-taling'. This isn't little Susan going to the teacher because so-and-so did something she didn't like. This is someone reporting a genuine breach of AO3's rules.

[(Anonymous)]

There's no line for me. I never report stuff. That's not my style. And if you talk about reporting people, then yes, I am going to think you are a tattle-tale.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh okay, so if someone steals a car in front of you, don't tell on them, because that'd make you a tattle-tale.

[(Anonymous)]

*yawn*

[(Anonymous)]

Oh right, so it's only things you don't care about that counts as tattle-taling, gotcha.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Because seeing a theft of actual property and reporting it is absolutely the same as running to the administrators of a website to dob somebody in for having something in their profile.

Calm down, captain false equivalence.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course they're not equivalent, but they're still rules? It's not like thing A being reported was Adam writing in blue ink instead of black when there's no rule against it, and thing B was plagiarism.

Both thing A and thing B are stated rules that have consequences, so reporting them shouldn't depend on the severity of the rules. It's not tattle-taling to point out someone is doing something that they've been told is expressly not allowed.

[(Anonymous)]

Being against the rules is not what makes an action wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh... that's literally what it means. In this circumstance, it is wrong because it is not allowed. Other places it may not be wrong because it is allowed.

Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Rules and morals are different though. Some rules aren't good or bad.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I feel like you're being genuine here, so I'll try to explain things as best as I can.
I'll start out by saying this situation has little to do with rules, and more to do with laws, and AO3's terms & conditions policy.
Breaking the law has serious consequences when it comes to both plagiarism, and copyright infringement. AO3 built their policies in a way to protect both themselves and their users. The only problem is the fact that very few, if anybody, actually reads the terms & conditions before accepting them. Some people just don't realize what they're doing is against regulation. But I'm getting off topic here.

The definition of a tattle-tale is: "A person who tries to get someone in trouble by revealing secret information about them."
So yes, the OP is indeed tattling when they report fics/authors after seeing them post a donation link. By reporting to an authoritative figure that 'so and so' were posting disallowed links, even if 'so and so' knew about it wasn't allowed, doesn't change that fact they were tattled on.

[(Anonymous)]

not any of the previous anons, but....

How is alerting TPTB to forbidden content (here, the link) "revealing secret information"? It's literally RIGHT THERE, visible to anyone. You're just bringing it to someone's attention.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - This. Ayrt might not agree with that rule or want to see it enforced, but it's not being a tattle-tale.

[(Anonymous)]

NA

I would actually call this is being a tattletale. Reporting because you're worried about the archive getting taken down or because you think it is wrong and should be stopped isn't being one, but doing it because you're annoyed and want to get someone in trouble, that is being a tattletale. The secret poster may think it is wrong, but the secret seems to indicate that isn't their main motivation.

[(Anonymous)]

NA - This is how I see it too. If the secret was more along the lines of, "I have no beef with it, but since it could harm AO3 I always report it," I would respond to that very differently. It's the tone of "I don't like it, so I like letting the authorities know and it serves these people right" that rubs me very much the wrong way.