[ SECRET POST #4661 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4661 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/ufrqgrv.jpg

[cloudtrader]

I'm not fond of grimdark as a thing, either. Personally, at least in comics fandoms, I blame Frank Miller and Alan Moore. But, like, it's been 30 years, can we get back to more positive stories and less depressed and depressing characters?

[(Anonymous)]

And can we please cool it with the "we need a grimdark adaption of every single classic story, no matter how wholesome it used to be" thing?

[(Anonymous)]

If you want to do a dark adaptation of something, at least do the Riverdale thing and make it batshit nuts instead of grimdark

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair to Alan Moore, I think he doesn't actually like superheroes very much in the first place and most of his cape stories can be read as basically criticisms, often vicious and biting criticisms, of the mainstream superhero genre. It's not his fault a bunch of editors and fans decided that the genre actually should look like his criticism of it.

[(Anonymous)]

I get the impression he still loves the genre dearly, but that love means his standards are impossibly high.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's a good point, I think a lot of it's specifically about the mainstream version of the genre, not the concept as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd take his criticism of the genre more seriously if his stuff wasn't also just as sexist or even more so than the genre usually is.

[(Anonymous)]

i mean those are two separate things? like, I agree it's bad that his work is sexist but that's not really central to his criticism of the genre

[(Anonymous)]

You know what? This obsession with grimdark has made me want to make my own fantasy medieval world that is Game of Thrones, but Noblebright. I already wrote a dark space opera and I'm still proud of it, but I realized I now want to write something with a sense of hope. With realism doesn't necessarily tarnish, but instead help it.

Kind of like the anime Maoyuu, where it deals with the realistic medieval consequences and inventions of a world, but just as they are there to warn of things that could happen and do happen, of inventions and new institutions that create a better world. Or Maria the Virgin Witch, to a degree.

[cloudtrader]

Wow, that sounds like it would be really nice with the thought you've put into it. And thank you for the recommendation of the anime. Good luck, write your wishes!

[melissatreglia]

A noblebright GoT? Do it, friend, and I will happily buy half a dozen copies for me and my BFFs. :D

[(Anonymous)]

For about two seconds, I thought this secret was talking about the lighting in movies and TV shows and my response was "YES I AGREE!"

I mean, I still agree with this secret wholeheartedly but also: I want to be able to see it, no matter what it's about.

[jadeile]

YES. That's one of the reasons I prefer cartoons: even when the characters are in a dark place, the audience is allowed to see what's going on (with the exception of pitch black with eyeballs, but that doesn't count). Live-action; not so much.

[(Anonymous)]

It took me a minute to realize that this was talking about grimdark stuff instead of "light as an element isn't always good, dark as an element isn't always bad."