[ SECRET POST #4684 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4684 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that no one can be bothered to do redemption any other way, it's that when you have villains who are patricides and child-murderers who are complicit in the destruction of entire planets, redemption isn't believable any other way.

Either he dies to redeem himself, or he dies because one good act doesn't actually get him out of facing justice for the many, many war crimes he's guilty of.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[sparklywalls]

I do see your point because I would rather redemption be done properly than rushed over and done just because "plot reasons!" but realistically no 2 hour film seems to be able to put the work in for what would be a very, very complex and lengthy process which wouldn't end with all forgiven.

Again I'm not even a Kylo Ren fan but if they're putting him in parallel to Vader I just feel like a change of heart is what they're angling at. But they're sucking at it. Perhaps it is a symptom of the format but tbh I am so jaded in Star Wars terms I feel like any attempt to do anything elaborate along those lines would be decried as terrible. I mean, this is the sequel trilogy that had the potential for loads of interesting threads to be explored and they were either neutered, ignored or generally didn't live up to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Except that by the end of The Last Jedi, he wasn't in parallel to Vader, but the Emperor. He's taken over the First Order and is calling all the shots. Rian Johnson set it all up so that Kylo would be the Big Bad for the final movie.

So what does JJ do? Bring back the Emperor. Oof.

(Which is to say I don't disagree with you. If redemption is on the table, there's no way they're going to do it justice unless they simply repeat RotJ: he saves someone - presumably Rey - from the Emperor and then promptly dies so he doesn't have to face actual justice for all the suffering and misery he's caused.