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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-06 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #4688 ]


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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-11-06 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Saw it coming. Still hate it. Just because they planned it doesn't mean it was a good ending. They spend the last few seasons telling us why Ted and Robin weren't good for each other. I do ship Barney/Robin and think that they just worked and that their ending made no sense. But even apart from that, Ted and Robin don't work.

And what gets me is that basically the message ends up being that Ted's dreams of a family and kids are the objectively best dreams and that there was something wrong with Robin's dreams and that she had to change who she was. That's what bugs me the most.

Also, by the end, Ted was really unlikable to be honest and even the Mother didn't deserve to be stuck with him, but at least that pairing worked and they fit each other.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
+100

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's easy to focus more on the how the ending ruined Robin's character, but I'd argue Ted was also done a great disservice. During the show's run, he blindly ran back to Robin every time he suffered a big break up or other devastating event. He used her as a reason to not move on and grow up. She was a crutch for him as Victoria wisely pointed out. That's why Ted letting Robin go via balloon metaphor in season 9 was such an important moment for him.

A proper ending for Ted would have shown him no longer having an ounce of romantic feeling for a woman he simply never fit with. His late 20/30 year old self thought love was enough but his 40/50 year old self should have come out wiser than that. Love doesn’t magically change people. "Love" doesn't make a person want kids, stop being self sufficient to a fault, or keep them from putting their career before anything else. A couple needs to have the same life goals in order to be successful. I know some people like to think that love just fixes everything but it doesn’t. It’s a naive and even harmful idea in some cases. But who cares about logic? French horn of destiny! Yay!
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-11-07 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
This is very true. But honestly I disliked Ted by the end of the show and didn't care about his fate as much as I did the other characters. But you are right, the ending did him a disservice. Did everyone a disservice really.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Really i hated that ending like so much robin and bareny were good for each other qnd they shattered that so after ted had a wife and kids he could be with robin and she. Didn't even like kids .

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
...only if you ignore, like, three seasons of 'Ted and Robin Do Not Work Together'? This is why they should have shot several endings when they were doing the first season, rather than having to retcon several years of character development so they could come back to the kids sitting on the couch going "Hey Dad, you spent literal years telling us about your boring sex life and terrible dating skills, how about you go tell Aunt Robin you're still obsessed with her and stop wasting our time?"

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Not just Ted and Robin don't work together, but Robin was extremely uninterested in Ted for solid years, all because she wanted to be with Barney. Ted legit asked her if she loved him and she said no, for heaven's sake.

The only way that ending makes sense is if you take two of their negative traits. Ted always goes back to his exs when he's feeling down and Robin always wants what she can't have. Which makes the ending even more sad as it means Ted and Robin will fail again and they should've gone for therapy instead of falling back into old patterns.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The ending was meant for roughly around s2 when they were afraid it would get canceled. The "Mother" was supposed to be Victoria. The showrunners then sat on it and didn't edit it much which is why we got the mess.

There's actually a ton of contradictions between the ending from s7-s8. For example, in 46 minutes Ted says "Robin traveled the world but was never alone" then the ending has Robin essentially shunning the group while the group calls her an ice queen. Then there's that s8 ep which has Robin and Lily talking through the years about the time Robin lost Marvin's stroller which shows Lily and Robin as friends during a time when Robin was supposed to be completely isolated from the group.

There were so many other instances (like s3 showing that Aunt Robin was a cool aunt to his kids) that showed a complete contradiction to the end.

Anyways, there's an official alternate ending from the last season dvd and that's all that matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHUs8J7x94

Tracy lives in this ending. The showrunners confirmed that the smile between Barney and Robin was because they got back together.

"Never alone" what crap

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Looking back on it that's probably the most insulting part because the lesson of that episode was not every woman's family is her husband and children. Some women's friends become her family and that's awesome if that's how she wants to live her life. But no, Robin gets dumped by her friends like she never mattered to them later in life. So gross.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I liked the ending, too. I'd also have liked it if tracy hadn't died, cause she was awesome and Robin had stayed their aunt.
I just couldn't stand Barney and Robin as a couple (I think the only woman I ever liked him with was Nora).

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I hated the whole show from the start tbh but like... even from the little of it that I watched, I thought the ending was the obvious conclusion to the story I got pieces of, and I have to say, like... that's the ending the show needed to have, anything else would have been a betrayal of the work they put into building up to it.

So I guess even though I hated the show, I don't hate the ending?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Same.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
> paid attention to the characters' actions

you mean like Robin telling Ted, repeatedly, consistently, that it wasn't going to happen between them?