[ SECRET POST #4714 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4714 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[type_wild]

I haven't actually seen the film, but the title is so iconic that it cannot be associated with anything BUT that film.

[(Anonymous)]

The other film associated with it is Clockwork Orange. You really don't want to know why.

Though to be fair, it was made in reference to that song.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the only scene in that movie that actually disturbs me.

[greghousesgf]

because that one dance routine came out so well!
I'm curious, which song do you think is the best?

[(Anonymous)]

Hm. I didn't actually know this, but from looking at Wikipedia apparently Singin' in the Rain was basically a jukebox musical and most of the songs were recycled from pre-existing musicals / standards? So Singin' In The Rain was already a song that had been a hit and it fit as a title for a musical I guess.

[jcfiala]

It kind of blew my mind when I found that out. I mean, there's a couple of songs which are just shoved in there to be songs, but a lot of them really seem to be part of the plot.

Well...

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's as plot relevant as any of the love songs. The only original song (Make 'Em Laugh doesn't count because it was stolen, even if they call it "striking resemblance"), which is pretty plot relevant, is Moses Supposes and I think that would give a false impression of the film. Given the presentation in the film, I would say Singin' in the Rain, is probably the biggest and most memorable of the love songs.

But to answer your question, the film, which was sort intended as a showcase for Freed (who produced) and Brown's songs, was titled for their first hit before the film even had a story idea.

[(Anonymous)]

As anon above said, it's a jukebox musical. Gene Kelly was the big star and Singin' in the Rain was his big solo spectacle piece.

Also, 'Moses Supposes' would have been a weird name for a romantic comedy.

[(Anonymous)]

I personal hate this movie. It's so mean spirited and knowing how much of a dick Gene was to Debbie just made me like it even less.
I also found it strange that even during the Singing in the Rain sequence it only had Gene, and he wasn't even wearing a yellow raincoat. It's pretty much the image of the movie, and it didn't even happen.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it too. I sympathized with the villain lady and the fact that she needed to be a bad guy for reasons that weren't her fault. Having an annoying voice and not liking your costar shouldn't be bad things.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly, I sympathized with her too! Especially since so many actors from the silent era were losing their jobs for that very same reason, (John Gilbert for example, who stopped being casted because he was imagined to have a deeper vice than he actually had!) it left such a bad taste in my mouth! The whole thing seemed so underhanded!

[(Anonymous)]

Er, she tried to have another actor fired?

[(Anonymous)]

The Morecambe and Wise version is so much better.

[meadowphoenix]

i think it makes sense from a theme perspective. the movie is about being optimistic and hopeful when your world might fuck you over. the rain can be shitty, but if you're singing your way through it then you're gonna make the best of it.


dying at people confusing antagonists with villain and being sympathetic to a very selfish person. the different between lina and don is that while they were both selfish assholes, lina never grew and never wanted to and was willing to fuck over other people in order to get hers. and chasing someone who doesn't want you and is clear about it is true villain behavior, woman or man.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, fuck being undesirable in your job just because of your voice and the change from silent film to voiced, John Gilbert should have just smiled and moved on and done better. He should have just grown.

[meadowphoenix]

i mean if people were willing to pay john gilbert a movie star salary for someone else to dub him....yes he should have sucked it up. is that really a question?

and like i don't know if you know this but.....the movie industry that allowed john gilbert didn't allow other equally good entertainers because they didn't like their faces at all or you know their race, not just because they felt their voices didn't match their faces. like...it is an industry in which you WILL become obsolete more likely than not so...............................................yes get that check and adapt, or move the hell on, that's literally what you signed up for.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

John Gilbert was veto'd the minute he was filmed in sound. It was one of the many results of the films that attempted to transition from the silent to talkie era. Singing in the Rain isn't one of those films caught up in that transition, not even in the slightest. You're confusing reality with the movie it seems.
It's entire plot is about deceiving an old starlet by dubbing her over with a younger and more approving voice. It's not a satire, it's one of a hundred musicals made to make a profit. The code didn't come in until well past talkies became mainstream, Singing in the Rain has nothing to do with who or why someone was hired. The silent era was very much more tolerant of who they cast, if only because there was no punishable law against it. (check the blacklist for starters) You might even want to check your reference because both Gene, and Donald O'Connor especially we known to use racism as a point in their comedy acts.
Hollywood was extremely different back then.

[meadowphoenix]

I actually think you're mistaking the conversation. I'm not confusing reality with the movie. the first part of my comment was in reply to an anon who responded to my assertions that defending Lina as somewhat justified was funny considering where her anger was actually directed in the musical with a response implying that I was laughing at John Gilbert's career. If Gilbert had the same choices as Lamont, be dubbed now, paid now, and replaced later or ruin your and everyone else's careers, I would tell him to suck it up too.

the second part of my comment was the idea that someone should be sympathetic to anyone who engaged in a career based on perceived attractiveness getting booted with new technology is interesting when presumably those entertainers never had a problem with whole swaths of the population being excluded when those entertainers wanted to succeed. i don't think you can be surprised when a wave you were riding crashes on you too. and you can say whatever the hell you want about pre-code productions, but don't pee on me and tell me its raining wrt racial inclusion. just because post-code was much worse doesn't me pre-code was any good. talking like minstrels shows, and movies with pickanninies weren't running at the same damn time and birth of a nation wasn't a whole damn hit, fuck outta here.