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[ SECRET POST #664 ]

⌈ Secret Post #664 ⌋

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And why don't they just become thin? Society will always mock "fat" people because it's mere survival instinct.

... You're joking, right? You are seriously joking, right?

Brb just gonna go update my friends and alert them that after years of trying to lose weight the solution is "just become thin."

And no, "society" will not "always mock fat people" because it's "survival instinct." People mocking other people for what they look like isn't "natural," it's assholery.

I'm a person with genetic predisposition to obesity. I have hormonal problems, too. It took 5 years to stop being fat, but it's all about effort and will power. I exercise everyday and eat adequate food to keep myself fit and healthy. I'm also doing better than ever in college, the quality diet and exercise do wonders for your brain and concentration.

So much for being "shallow".

What are you waiting for, a gold star?

I didn't say you were shallow. When did I say shallow?

It took 5 years to stop being fat

That's great! So... for five years people need to stop doing something they enjoy doing because they're "too fat" for it? Despite the fact that most of the cosplayers the OP is probably talking about don't wear revealing outfits.

And now that you're at a healthy weight, do you go around mocking people who aren't? Sorry, but if you do, I don't care if you used to be fat and worked hard not to be. You are still, when making fun of people about their appearance and making them feel horrible about themselves for no good reason, being an asshole. And if you don't, I don't see what your flak is. I'm not saying that people who are at an unhealthy weight shouldn't try to drop the extra weight, I'm saying that people who mock them are being jerks. Because it's entirely unnecessary and all it does is make the person feel bad about themselves, and that = assholery. I'm sorry, but it does.

True, generalizations are horrible. Support will help them with their problem more than mocking them.

*nods* I think I'm mostly upset with this secret because I have three friends who feel absolutely hideous whenever they cosplay. One of them has been trying to lose weight for quite a while now, because she has horrible self-esteem when it comes to her appearance, and she knows that it's causing her health problems. She cosplayed like... once, as Haruhi from Ouran, in the boys' uniform, which is pretty much the most tasteful outfit ever because lol layers. Attitudes like the one put forth in the secret have helped convinced her that she can never do that again, despite having a lot of fun with it, until she loses all that weight. That makes me really sad, that it's like... become a fandom-regulated hobby or something.

What a shame. :/ I'm 232 pounds myself, slowly but surely losing it at the moment, and I've been cosplaying since 2003 when I was even bigger. I'm getting ready to do a Haruhi as well.
Hell, if your friend is littler than I am, tell her to dress up and find me at a convention. I'll take the attention off of her for her and make her feel more comfortable. XD
Cosplay is all about having a good time with your friends. Sometimes I feel a twinge of sorrow as I look at picture of myself in my costumes and think about how much better I would look if I was skinnier. But you know, you can't let other people's expectations and judgements of you define your life or stop you from doing what you enjoy!

Like Dr. Seuss said, "Do what you want and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

I'm 232 pounds myself, slowly but surely losing it at the moment, and I've been cosplaying since 2003 when I was even bigger. I'm getting ready to do a Haruhi as well.

Good on you for cosplaying anyway, and not waiting til you're nebulously 'thin enough'. That's the other thing the haters don't really get - a currently fat person might be a fat person who has lost fifty pounds already, or a fat person committed to improving their health, etc etc. To look at any given fat person and pity them for being SO ugly and SO unhealthy is stupid - for all you know, that person is actively working out and training for a marathon. A single day at a convention says nothing about their life.

Exactly! :) Who I am and what I go after cannot be defined on one singular day.
People seem to think you're snarfing doritos (I haven't touched chips in a long time now) and chugging soda (I hadn't had any for 6 months before yesterday) if you're fat. They don't seem to consider that you might just be working on that road towards a thinner and healthier you. :)

That makes me really sad, that it's like... become a fandom-regulated hobby or something.

Yes - this is why I bother to respond to these kinds of moronic secrets at all. I want people to know that there are those of us out there who remember when dressing up at a convention was celebrated simply because you were geeky enough to DO it. For me, if you're cosplaying from my fandom? I WILL take your picture no matter how bad the costume itself is, because you are representing as a fellow fan, and THAT excites me.

And why don't they just become thin? Society will always mock "fat" people because it's mere survival instinct.

lol, social darwinism

Actually, I should elaborate: You know you're full of shit, right? You realize that if this were true, fat would be desireable in certain parts of the world, right? And that people wouldn't be aiming for completely unattainable body types, right? Much less worshipping extremely unhealthy ones? Ones that aren't suited for sturdiness and survival?

Human beings have very few instincts. You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better about buying into that bullshit, but at the end of the day, it's still bullshit.

Survival instinct? HA!

It has nothing to do with any instinct. Centuries ago, heavy women were considered more beautiful in some societies. They still are in certain places. And now, severely under weight people are considered beautiful in the West. Anorexic models aren't healthy, yet no 'survival instinct' makes us want to mock them.

And if you're saying it's okay to mock bigger people because being fat is unhealthy (which it is), then perhaps we should also mock people who smoke, people who don't wear seatbelts, people who fuck other people without condoms, people who ride their motorcycles without a helmet, people who don't wash their hands all the time, people who go on unhealthy diets, etc, etc...

But we don't make fun of them nearly as much as we alienate and make fun of fat people, do we?

Also, why don't they just become thin? Because they're addicted to food. Alcoholics should certainly give up the habit, but it's easier said than done. It's a similar situation with food addiction (I don't mean to make light of the severity of alcholism by saying that).

So, in conclusion, you're an idiot and fuck off.

What about us who mock smokers, fat people, alcoholics, junkies, and just everything else in existence?

Well, I suppose you're an equal opportunity asshole, lol.

And do you think all those groups are made fun of equally? Smokers are unhealthy and made fun of, but not half as much as fat people in my experience.

Making fun of a fat person is not really about health or instinct, as this poster implied. It's about our society's standard of beauty. To say it's ingrained is ridiculous. That's really the point I was trying to make.

Indeed, kinda the point.

Although they are not made fun of equally by other people -I do try my best to make fun of everyone and everything (including myself)equally.

I could go on about the way society's standard of beauty is till the cows come home -or I can make fun of the supermodel with an eating disorder complaining about being too fat while puking her carrot stick and the morbidly obese guy lamenting his weight over a smorgasbord now and get back to looking for porn.

Your point itself was obvious, I was simply trying and failing at being funny.

Ah, I see. Sorry, kinda hard to catch on the internet.

'tsokay, it's generally harder to tell with me specifically because I tend to make choices in my wording that encourage the idea I'm being completely serious.

Though I do think the world could be a better place if people were only willing to laugh at others as much as they do themselves.

I love humor when we're all in on the joke. Jokes about race, body type, gender, etc, etc... They're all great. But the best comics can make a joke about a person seem both inclusive and offensive at the same time.

I don't mock thin people because I'm too busy being horrified that I can count someone's ribs. I don't find them pretty. Thin arms are really creepy, too. It makes me think that if I grab their arm, it'll break. I prefer people who look like they can take a strong wind without flying away.

I agree.

But in the modeling industry, the movie and television business, and our general culture (diets, beauty magazines, etc), thin is still in to an unhealth degree.

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