[ SECRET POST #4718 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4718 ⌋

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05. [SPOILERS for season 3 of Stranger Things]



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06. [SPOILERS for Frozen 2]




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Comments

[fscom]

06. [SPOILERS for Frozen 2]
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[morieris]

One of the lyrics in his song is "Who am I, if I'm not your guy?" and that's a pretty damn good question, seeing as his personality has been replaced with nothing but "Love Anna".

[(Anonymous)]

anna wasn’t thinking of him at her lowest because he wasn’t dead like Elsa and Olaf were.

[(Anonymous)]

+1,000,000

[(Anonymous)]

+1000000000000

[(Anonymous)]

This feels like maybe reading a little too deeply into a kids' movie

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't a fan of Kristoff in this movie. I was really put off that his girlfriend and her family are over here going through some dramatic (traumatic?) shit, and he's over here trying to make things about himself with his proposal.

[erinptah]

I feel like, after the first time he screwed it up and added to Anna's stress, he felt like he had a responsibility to relieve the stress by getting it right. And then he got stuck in a loop of getting it wrong over and over, and wasn't able to snap out of it.

Agree with OP in general, though, they weren't very inspiring as a couple overall :/ Kristoff had more chemistry with Northuldra Reindeer Guy in five minutes than he did with Anna the whole movie!

[(Anonymous)]

The whole "struggling to propose to my girlfriend during a string of action scenes I keep being ignored in during a road trip" deal was done better by Bernard in Rescuers Down Under.

nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

That's because Bernard is a catch

[(Anonymous)]

He's a comic character in a Disney animated feature. Kristoff has about the same role (and the same character depth) as Sebastian (Little Mermaid), Luis (Princess and the Frog), or Yao (Mulan). His entire purpose is to provide a comic interlude on a story that, in Olaf-narration terms, would be "something bad happens, then something bad happens, then we discover people who have been in a bad spot for 30 years, then something worse happens, and then I die."

[(Anonymous)]

...I mean I don’t care for the romance either (in fact I find it half assed and goes against what the first movie was criticizing with Hans since Anna only knew Kristoff for 1 day as well and then trolls happen) but I think you’re reading a littleeee too much into it secret maker?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Yeha, this is what happens when grown ass folks get too deep into media intended for kids.

I mean, be fannish about it, but do accept that it plays with a slightly different set of narrative rules and your reading might be off.

[(Anonymous)]

Meanwhile, I’m over here wondering why they didn’t have a wedding at the end. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[(Anonymous)]

+1, I thought they were cute...? But I guess I was also watching it on a pretty surface level, idk. It was a usual Disney romance. Worked for me.

Anna *Has* To Be Married

[(Anonymous)]

For plotty reasons. A lot of Elsa's character was designed to show that if she could just accept her powers, she'd be an excellent queen. Now Anna takes her place and it's not that we know Anna will be a bad queen, but she has to have something Elsa can't or won't do, that ultimately make her an equally (or better) sensible choice.

Disney was never going to confirm Elsa as gay, but they weren't nuts enough to give her a male love interest and risk completely alienating her fandom. Therefore, Anna is the one that has to do the #1 thing all monarchs are responsible for: provide a legitimate heir. Her and Kristoff getting married makes sense on a practical level.

One of the girls would have to be married soon in any case even if Elsa hadn't abdicated. Anna didn't necessarily have to be Queen to make an heir, but it'll be a smoother transition of power.

Re: Anna *Has* To Be Married

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, if push came to shove, Arendale (sp) could do what many monarchies of the era ended up doing, buying their royalty wholesale from other countries. (Or making the transition to a parliamentary system, or giving the crown to one of the guys responsible for killing off the previous royalty.) As is usual in Disney flics, "princess" has more to do with marketing than any real politics.

Re: Anna *Has* To Be Married

[(Anonymous)]

Anna "had to" be married, because that's how you sinal happy end for a romantic couple, and also, overwhelmingly, how you still signal "happy end" in general (and how Disney signalled appy end for all its princesses). That's all there is to it.

The fact that imaginary fantasy kindgom would need an imaginary heir, because something, something, realistic approach, is not really a reason that kids (or their parents) would care about. The sisters could spend next 13 films unmarried with zero children and no one would care about succession as long as they went on adventures. They can be 18 year-old for 50 years if Disney wants it.

[(Anonymous)]

I did find it interesting that the creators said they were planning on breaking them up but changed their mind. It would've been fascinating, considering Frozen had the twist with Han and a lot of fandom still complains about that. Can only imagine the reaction if they had gone through with that finish, haha