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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-12-26 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #4738 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4738 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, don't half-ass it and then go on the publicity circuit hyping what you did. I also find it mighty curious that Disney has the tightest control of what talent is allowed to say in the business, but everyone is talking up fanon ships and headcanon sexualities.

(Although I feel I'm missing something with She-Ra. One explicitly gay couple, one explicitly lesbian couple, and multiple close-up shots showing that Adora has a thing for women with big muscles.)

(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Two explicitly gay/lesbian couples aren't enough for you? And in a show that also has exactly one explicitly straight couple and no more? Yeesh.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm questioning what the previous anon found lacking in She Ra.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2019-12-27 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
As of the first season, they only had the explicitly-lesbian couple, and it was only explicit in a brief scene with a "honey" and a kiss on the cheek. So that was definitely a case of management holding them back! With the refreshing twist that the restraint let up in later seasons -- and sure enough, the creators did do more with it.

There's also enough subtext about the idea of Bow being a trans guy that I will not be surprised if, a few years from now, somebody says "yeah, we intended that to be canon, and would've made it explicit if the bosses had let us."
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[personal profile] erinptah 2019-12-27 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
OH AND: Scorpia! With her regular thing of "Catra is so amazing and gorgeous and wonderful and someday she will realize that she's my soulmate and we are Best Friends!"

The writers gesture so hard in the direction of that being an unambiguous f/f crush, and then keep coming back to calling it Friendship. Exactly like you would if gay content was the goal, and then management came in and said "side characters are one thing, but we can't let you make a recurring character explicitly queer," so you appease them by pasting in a few references to "friends" while changing nothing else. Just Fright Zone gals being Fright Zone pals.

(...And then did the same thing with Sea Hawk's feelings for Mermista, so at least it's equal-opportunity romance-obscuring.)

(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's the thing with She-Ra. Since it's supposed to be for young kids, I have a feeling management keeps coming down on the creators to keep things squeaky clean by requiring all romance to carry on in subtleties even though I keep doing air quotes in my head when characters say "Friend", but their actions make it explicit that yup, there's romantic interest there.

And I admit to enjoying see what they can sneak past the censors. Like Catra sleeping at Adora's feet in season one. Or giving Entrapta freaking shoujo sparkles in season three. Which a weeb like me would understand in a snap but random Joe Schmo on the street wouldn't think much of.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't find Netossa/Spinerella, Bow's Two Dads, Double Trouble, or Adora's lady crushes to be at all subtle.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-27 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Scorpia is just fine. Not everyone comes into young adulthood with the emotional intelligence to clearly understand or articulate our romantic desires, and her multi-season character growth in this direction has been one of the joys of the show. Also it's almost entirely unreciprocated anyway, and "Catra is a shitty friend" is probably THE biggest conflict of the show, affecting Scorpia, Adora, Entrapta, Hordak, and even Lonnie.