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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-08 08:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #4751 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4751 ⌋

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-01-09 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Wait. So how do they not know about the Jedi? The Mandalorians acted like Jedi were some mythical beings that are not real.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Same way Han did; it's just super-possible to miss galaxy-changing events that happen during your lifetime in this universe, apparently.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-01-09 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't they just save the world? And within Darth Vader's lifetime there was a whole council of them recruiting children.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but the Rebellion saved the world. They had one(1)Jedi, sort of. He wasn't, like, an official Jedi or anything. Two, if you count Vader, but the only not-ghost who counts Vader as a Jedi is Luke. And considering that the council considered Anakin too old to train at 9, recruiting is a bit euphemistic. So several wars and a violent fascist uprising after the fact, you've got people telling you that there used to be a planet full of magic-wielding aliens who stole babies and could read minds, but they're all gone now.

Sounds a little bit mythological.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect the Armorer's story was a reference to KOTOR and KOTOR2.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
And there's buzz about something set in the "High Republic" with young padawan or knight Yoda.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-01-09 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, even in the original trilogy the Jedi are extinct -- heck, iirc even the Force is referred to a a "long dead religion."

If the Jedi were wiped out (Order 66?) several generations before, and if neither you nor anyone you knew had ever met one, maybe you might think of them as whatever the equivalent of an urban legend is?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-01-09 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
But it wasn't several generations ago. It was not even a whole generation ago that they had Jedi schools and councils. They also seemed to work with governments.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-01-09 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* idk then, unless it was that people not near the centers of power that worked with Jedi just didn't have much first hand experience with them?

*waves fingers* I am not the Star Wars lore nerd you are looking for...
Edited 2020-01-09 03:02 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
In their heyday the Jedi had Temples and outposts on many planets, however by the time of the prequel Trilogy I believe they had dwindled to only the main Temple on Coruscant, the AgriCorps, and maybe one or two small and isolated outposts. At that point before the Clone Wars the Jedi were mainly being called upon to mediate political disputes and handle weird jobs that no one else could take - they primarily interacted only with people in high government. The average layperson in the galaxy would most likely never knowingly meet a Jedi, or know anyone who had. Its not surprising that they were relegated to legend fairly quickly after the destruction of the Order.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
The Jedi have already been hunted to near extinction at the beginning of the original trilogy, and were fairly mysterious before the purge. There are people like Han that don't even believe in the Force, let alone that Jedi were actually a real thing and not some kind of scam. Depending on how long after RotJ the show actually is, the news that Jedi are back/real/whatever probably took a backseat to the collapse of the Empire.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-01-09 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I guess they didn't send out pamphlets for their Jedi college and political program.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really. At that point the only people they were recruiting were infants and toddlers, and usually ones that were discovered by Jedi Knights or brought in to the Temple by people who recognized the signs of Force Sensitivity - and even then, only those children whose families were willing to surrender them to the Jedi and never see them again. There's a reason why the Jedi were so few in number.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
A big plot beat of the prequels is that the Jedi and Republic didn't have the people or resources to control "The Outer Rim" and "The Periphery," at least not until Palpatine suddenly got his clone army. And the Jedi order had been effectively dead for 20 years.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Jedi were rare and mythological even at their peak; you basically have to be born a bender AND join a specific group of samurai AND train your whole life, and then if you don't suck at the combat part the counsel sometimes sends you on diplomatic peacekeeping missions where people might see you if you're shit enough to be flashy about it.

THEN the Space Nazis systematically murder the Jedi and for the next 50-odd years, actively suppress and erase what proof of them there was.

Mando's world is set right after the Rebellion overthrew the entire galactic government, which means any possible story he may hear about one rando pilot being a magic knight with a laser sword is probably less important than the part where the backwater planets where he lives are being left to fend for themselves in a wild west situation.

Force adept people are still being born, but most of them aren't as strong as the baby, and there's no network for training them anymore. Luke won't get his shit together in that regard for another 20 years or something.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-09 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
The full flashback suggests Mando's early childhood was the location one of the successionist invasions, which would put him well outside of the Core Worlds.