[ SECRET POST #4754 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4754 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 42 secrets from Secret Submission Post #681.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make...

[sparklywalls]

Not really a Kylo fan but as a MCU Loki fan...agree with your comment so hard.

In some fan spaces I've legit given up trying to have discussions about most characters who aren't boring straight forward heroes or boring straight forward villains tbh because it feels like fandom can't accept that some people like characters who would be overall terrible real people but because it's not real it's *entertainment* and being conflicted etc is part of what makes it entertaining.

I am getting SUPER annoyed at the feeling that you can't say you like a character if they're not 100% soft pure smol bean or if they're not you need to write a shit load of fucking disclaimers about how you know they murdered people and you don't think that's ok. On the other hand if you don't excuse everything they did with "they were abused/gaslighted or whatever" you STILL can't win1

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make...

[philstar22]

True. And then on the other hand you have the fans who can't handle the fact that they like characters who aren't perfect and therefore feel the need to come up with justifications for everything bad their favorite character does. Both extremes are incredibly annoying.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make...

[sparklywalls]

Indeed. That's what I mean with the fact that if you don't accept everything as abuse or whatever, you still can't win. I've seen fans of characters (not just Loki but he's my main experience) turn on other fans of the same bloody character for pointing out "yes that was awful but there was still a choice to do some not very nice things" and it doesn't mean they can't be redeemed but there has to be some acceptance of the wrong they committed on their part at some point.

And also in Loki's case I'm sick of people with no reading comprehension thinking "influenced by" in official Marvel sources is the same as "mind controlled" - arrgh!