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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-16 06:51 pm
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[ SECRET POST #4759 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4759 ⌋

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[The Mandalorian]



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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
No, they don't. Attraction is subjective and personal. People only say that transwomen are women and that saying otherwise makes you a transphobe. Not being personally attracted to them is not a problem. Saying that no lesbian could every be attracted to any transwoman would be transphobic. Saying that people attracted to transwomen aren't people being attracted to women would be transphobic. Not being personally attracted to them is not transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Being attracted exclusively to one sex, we're not talking about gender, isn't subjective, it's an orientation. People don't wake up one day and think "I'll do cock because the person attached to it says they're a woman." This shit reminds me of when people said being gay was just a choice and called it a sexual preference.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-17 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Sex and gender aren't tied together the same way for all people. Just as trans people exist, so too do people exist who are attracted to trans people who are women but have cocks or who are men but have vaginas. Not everyone has the same rigid categories of sex and gender when it comes to attraction any more than everyone does when it comes to identity. I happen to be someone who does for the most part. I'm bisexual, but I generally have different types for men and for women. But it isn't that hard to recognize that not everyone is me and that attraction doesn't work the same for everyone.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
+1000000

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Sure, if you follow tags on twitter, you can find some "cotton ceiling" wank. But mostly it's just about bullying trans-inclusive gay and lesbian people.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you still pretending that those circular "no one's forcing you to date some with a cock but..." comments are isolated? Those comments get thousands of likes on Twitter, get posted constantly at places like r/trrraaannnsss and r/actuallesbains and there are YouTube videos explaining how people should examine their genital preferences.

People went from people never say that to yeah people do, but it's contained to certain Twitter tags. Maybe one day you'll admit that line of thought is not uncommon.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
"people should examine their gender preferences" is a long fucking drive from "lesbians are evil if they don't suck dick"

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Is it? Those two statements are not only in the same neighborhood, they're in the same fucking house.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it seems to me that saying that some peoples' lack of desire to date trans people might be rooted in prejudice or unconscious bias does not mean that all such opinions are rooted in that.

And in general, people should regularly examine their prejudices. That seems like a good thing to do. I endorse examining prejudices.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And routinely, people of any and all genders should examine their behaviour and prejudices (since we all live in a rape culture) to ensure they're not rooted in an unconscious sense of entitlement in which they're 'owed' sex or even relationships with people.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure.

(I think you think this is a telling point, and it very much is not)

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, dude, those are incredibly different.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
The trans people I hang with regular do some combination of the following:

1. Don't date at all.
2. Are in long-term relationships.
3. Date trans people.
4. Date cis people after an extensive process of vetting to exclude transphobes or chasers (the difference between the two is often 20 seconds and the word "no".)



(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
They also don't give a fuck about what Rowling tweeted last month either

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
You're right, absolutely no one thinks like that. Real actual human beings are more like "oh hey I really like this woman and want to date her even though there are some things i'll need to get used to"

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'm not attracted to transsexuals and I don't see why this is a problem. I'm supposed to take it in stride when no one's attracted to me for whatever reason and transsexuals need to do the same. It's not phobic at all. Unfortunately, they are in a minority and they must realize that.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-17 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
What? You missed the point. Most trans people very much recognize that. Some people are attracted to trans people, some people aren't. Trans people for the most part, in my experience, only have a problem with people who say that noone could be attracted to a trans person. They don't have a problem with individual people not being personally attracted to them.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT: Yes, like the wank on this is so far removed from my real-world trans peers, who are either in LTRs, single, or are very careful to date only within trans-friendly circles.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-17 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've never met or heard of an actual transwoman saying that all female-attracted people should be into them (or transmen and male-attracted people) or that people who aren't are transphobic. I've only ever heard of this as a conservative accusation/strawman argument.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen it online, but online is an endless parade of trolls, cranks, and overly earnest kids with no real-world experience.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yuppppp

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
You have such a condescending tone. "They are in a minority and they must realise that." Are you stupid? Do you think trans people aren't bitchslapped by that every single day? Trans people don't feel entitled to people's attraction. You're not a bigot if you happen to not be attracted to transgender people. You're a bigot if you act like nobody could possibly be attracted to a trans person, or that people who are are less valid in whatever their sexuality happens to be, implying trans people aren't what they say.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a problem if you personally don't want to. Nobody cares about your personal preference. The phobia is when it's societal.
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