[ SECRET POST #4759 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4759 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Mandalorian]



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[linked for nudity at OP's request]


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06. [minor spoilers for The Witcher]


















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And also - if you're figuring out who you are, it's OK for that to be a complicated journey

A kid thinking they're genderqueer and then working out that the identity doesn't work for them is hardly a tragedy

[(Anonymous)]

Totally! There's nothing wrong with it, and congrats to that kid to trying to find the best way to be in tune with their mind and body. At the end of the day, if a kid thinks they're genderqueer - or hell, even trans - and then later doesn't, it's really no one's business except theirs.

I agree that these kinds of statistics can be weaponized against actual trans people - like, "look at so-and-so or these numbers that say you'll change your mind!" and thus resulting in trans identities being dismissed. I wish we could move past that, and just realize it's fine no matter what, because the only one it affects is the individual in question and the best thing you can do is be there for them and respect their decision to figure things out.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's kind of a big deal if you realize you want to identify as a woman, your biological sex, and you've had a double masectomy and have permanent beard stubble. Hormones and surgery are largely not reversible.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, that is a big deal. But it's your big deal, and shouldn't be used to harm others. I don't presently have any reason to believe that the mass, mass majority of teens exploring their gender identity go through with hormones and surgery. That is between them and their doctors, at any rate.

For the record, I also don't think it's appropriate either way for fandom or anyone else (who isn't a health professional) to advise you what you should/should not do with your body. The scenario of fandom telling a confused teen that yes, they should take hormones and have surgery because they feel uncomfortable with their body is HUGELY problematic and dangerous. Relating a personal story to a confused friend about how hormone therapy has worked for you is another matter, but beyond letting teens know they aren't alone and they have options and support no matter what, no one should be pushing them either way.

But let me emphasize again that it would have been a lot of work for you to start hormone therapy or surgery. You really would have had to seriously pursue those decisions. This couldn't have happened on a whim because of fandom. This would've really been a you thing - it's not like trying meth one night on an impulse.

It may be the case that there are people out there who felt they were trans and changed their minds. Some of them may have gone through with hormones or surgery. It isn't impossible. And that must be a horrible feeling for them, and I wish them all the best in whatever they need in the future to feel whole again.

But the alternative of discouraging young people from gender therapies or dismissing their trans identities is so, so much worse. If we do that, we're going to have more dead kids on our hands.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course not. But hormones and surgery require a pretty significant referral process, a long wait list, a dedicated long-term care team, long drives to a handful of care providers, and a fuckton of cash unless you win the insurance lottery.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

As a cis woman with beard stubble (and chest hair like goddamn Gaston) razors and waxing exist. And while it’s been a long damn time since I was flat chested, I know there are better options these days than the oranges pre-pubescent me shoved down my tops. And while surgery can be tricky, of fucking course hormones are reversible. Also gaining access to surgery and hormones in the first place is hard.

[(Anonymous)]

Well then, it's a good thing the process is careful to filter out the people who aren't genuinely suffering from dysphoria by itself then, isn't it? The way people like to talk, you'd think you walk in and immediately get given these things. It's not like that at all. It takes years, and countless hoops to jump through.

[(Anonymous)]

The Tavistock has lost 35 psychologists in 3 years, not sure the process is that careful.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure what they have to do with it?