[ SECRET POST #4760 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

Spoilers and content warnings ahead.





01. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]



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02. [SPOILERS for The Surge 2]



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03. [SPOILERS for The Mandalorian]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of gore, violence to women/children]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of racism, sexism/misogyny]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
















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Comments

[fscom]

05. [WARNING for discussion of gore, violence to women/children]
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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

I know they're different shows with different fandoms, but I think it's funny how it was okay for Spartacus and his rebels to kill children, stab pregnant women, and burn an area full of civilians to to the ground, but Daenerys is evil for destroying King's Landing. The only difference is Spartacus didn't have a dragon.

Re: Transcript by OP

[(Anonymous)]

... and Dany doesn't have a penis.

Men are allowed to be violent; women aren't, unless they're mamma tigers protecting cubs.

[philstar22]

Those two situations aren't comparable at all. A show sem-based on an actual historical figure during roman times vs. a character in a fantasy series simply can't be compared, and the suggestion is pretty ludicrous. And Dany is my favorite character. But what she did wasn't justified. It was bad writing and not believable. But it wasn't good.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

IA

[(Anonymous)]

You could have at least picked another HBO show (maybe one that people actually watched), to try and defend the mass murderer who burned a bunch of innocent people to death. This is like comparing apples and a steak.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh at nobody watching Spartacus

[(Anonymous)]

https://youtu.be/hslq_r6tExQ?t=144

[(Anonymous)]

lmao

[(Anonymous)]

Bless you

[(Anonymous)]

It's been a long time since I saw Spartacus, but as I recall, these actions were portrayed as bad. This is a historical figure, and there was certainly a lesson in there about revenge against innocents being bad. I think we were supposed to see the slave rebellion as "going too far" in some deliberately uncomfortable scenes.

[(Anonymous)]

crixus should've had a dragon, is what you're saying

[ninefox]

tbh even aside from all the non-equivalencies between the different shows and fandoms

I don't think it's unreasonable or hypocritical to have stricter moral standards or more trouble blowing off violent media as fictional fun once the in-universe equivalent of WMD is involved

grimdark gonna grimdark, but the kind of unilateral power you get from sole control of dragons makes the brutality feel extra bleak to me

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[(Anonymous)]

I haven't watched either of these shows, but I've picked up some stuff and correct me if I'm wrong, but you are comparing an actual slave rebellion with an angry fantasy ruler, who can command dragons. Those aren't even like apples and oranges, they're like aardvarks and opals.

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

So it’s ok for slaves to kill children and stab pregnant women?

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

It's not OK for a slave rebellion to do that but the slave rebellion would still be justified more broadly

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say it'd never okay to kill children, full stop, no spectrum.

Slaves are certainly justified in liberating themselves, however, even if violence is necessary. That's essentially self defense.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Children are just littler versions of any other asshole, it's no different from killing any other potentially harmful figure that may or may not get in your way in the future! Come on, get with the picture!

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

When the pregnant woman in question is the slaveowner who has repeatedly raped the slave who stabbed her, sure.

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

If Lucretia deserved it, so did the people of King’s Landing

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't actually give a toss about Kings Landing, it was cheap shitty drama and I couldn't care less, but wtf? "Individual who directly and personally wronged the person who killed them" isn't really equivalent to "population of a few hundred thousand people with no control over their shitty rulers".

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

so was the unborn baby his?

Re: ?

[rivia]

don't forget what lucretia did to naevia!

Re: ?

[(Anonymous)]

Not okay, but more understandable and narratively more justifiable.