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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-17 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4760 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

Spoilers and content warnings ahead.





01. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]



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02. [SPOILERS for The Surge 2]



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03. [SPOILERS for The Mandalorian]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of gore, violence to women/children]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of racism, sexism/misogyny]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
















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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched either of these shows, but I've picked up some stuff and correct me if I'm wrong, but you are comparing an actual slave rebellion with an angry fantasy ruler, who can command dragons. Those aren't even like apples and oranges, they're like aardvarks and opals.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
+1

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
So it’s ok for slaves to kill children and stab pregnant women?

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's not OK for a slave rebellion to do that but the slave rebellion would still be justified more broadly

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say it'd never okay to kill children, full stop, no spectrum.

Slaves are certainly justified in liberating themselves, however, even if violence is necessary. That's essentially self defense.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Children are just littler versions of any other asshole, it's no different from killing any other potentially harmful figure that may or may not get in your way in the future! Come on, get with the picture!

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
When the pregnant woman in question is the slaveowner who has repeatedly raped the slave who stabbed her, sure.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
If Lucretia deserved it, so did the people of King’s Landing

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't actually give a toss about Kings Landing, it was cheap shitty drama and I couldn't care less, but wtf? "Individual who directly and personally wronged the person who killed them" isn't really equivalent to "population of a few hundred thousand people with no control over their shitty rulers".

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
They helped the High Sparrow rise to power

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Diffusion of responsibility is usually held to lessen the responsibility

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Which had no bearing whatsoever on Daenerys' decision to burn them all alive, given that he exploded long before she ever set foot in Westeros.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
She promised Olenna she would avenge her family

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The people of King's Landing didn't kill Olenna's family. That was all Cersei.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
They enabled the High Sparrow’s persecution of Loras and Margaery, which led to their deaths.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
the desperation here, smh

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
so was the unborn baby his?

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Are you a pro-lifer?

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Supporting a woman’s right to choose doesn’t mean supporting the father stabbing her

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
"The father" dear lord, she fucking RAPED him.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Does that make him not the father?

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure who the father of this child is but if it is him, then "Oh this poor innocent lady got herself stabbed and her poor unborn child was murdered by the evil baby daddy" doesn't really seem like a fitting summary of the situation. Unless you think women should have to carry children to term after they got pregnant through rape.

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[personal profile] rivia 2020-01-18 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
don't forget what lucretia did to naevia!

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
What, giving her away instead of killing her?

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Not okay, but more understandable and narratively more justifiable.