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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-17 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4760 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

Spoilers and content warnings ahead.





01. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]



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02. [SPOILERS for The Surge 2]



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03. [SPOILERS for The Mandalorian]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of gore, violence to women/children]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of racism, sexism/misogyny]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
















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(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
A fair criticism of the OT is that Anakin's redemption makes emotional sense, but it makes absolutely no sense as a model of any kind of justice. And it's kind of a last-act asspull for a character where the only prior hint of reconciliation was asking Luke to help him become Emperor.

Similarly, TLJ leaves Kylo as one of the most deliciously hateable characters in the franchise. There's no grounds to woobify Kylo's complete commitment to the Tarkin Doctrine. (Which arguably is worse than real-world nazis.) Kylo is a war criminal. And like Vader, Ben's redemption is a last-minute asspull. He flips in less than five minutes from "let's kill the Emperor, start the next Sith dynasty, and rule through domination and fear" to "Oh father, forgive me! I have sinned and I know not what to do."

That's one of the disagreements here. There's no reason in the text to cut Kylo any slack before Endor. And his conversion on Endor is, like so much else in TRoS, an asspull without any substantial development.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-18 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And many relyos can't stand that anyone would hate a villain who was first introduced ordering the massacre of unarmed civilians.