[ SECRET POST #4761 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4761 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really care about a character's sexual orientation or body habitus. I only care about whether they are interesting or well written.

[silverr]

... agreed, but I assume you also acknowledge that seeing heroes that you can identify with (especially if you are not a cis slender straight white male) is something valuable for children?

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's better to just say "resemble" than "identify with." One of the arguments for diversity is that white, straight, etc, people should be able to identify with characters that don't share their race, sexual orientation, etc. and that kind of falls apart when you imply that less-represented people can't identify with white, straight, etc. characters.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

The point is more that less-represented people have been FORCED to learn how to identify with white straight characters since the inception of Hollywood, while people who HAVE had representation for themselves never had to actually learn that.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit.

Re: DA

[silverr]

Okay, I concede that my choice of words wasn't as precise as it should have been. I was using "identify" in the sense of "feel a connection to," but to me connecting to people who don't resemble you is one of the ways I'd define empathy.

[(Anonymous)]

Good for you?

[(Anonymous)]

And yet, Disney makes a point out of making sure that almost every character gets a heterosexual relationship, no matter how implausible.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I still can't believe they shoved Elsa, Moana, Merida, Ralph, Vanellope, every character from Zootopia, every character from Big Hero 6, blah blah blah... into heterosexual relationships :(

[(Anonymous)]

Let's see here, Frozen was originally developed as a Prince/Princess Charming story centered on Anna. Moana and Merida were considered radical departures from tradition. Even there, they're both members of extended heterosexual families. Ralph has a romance as a secondary plot. Multiple characters in Zootopia are coded as heterosexual including Bogo and Clawhouser, completely irrelevant to the plot. Big Hero 6 is arguably an exception but it's a Marvel crossover.

Meanwhile, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Fantasia, Bambi, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, Dalmatians, The Rescuers, Black Cauldron, The Aristocats, Little Mermaid, Rescuers Down Under, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Nightmare Before Christmas, Lion King, Pocahontas, Hunchback, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Lilo & Stitch, and Princess and the Frog all had straight relationships as either primary or secondary plot points. (I'm skipping over Pixar and Ghibli.)

In fact, Disney arguably invented the "Prince Charming" idiom in the English language because it was the basis for many of their most popular features.

[(Anonymous)]

>Multiple characters in Zootopia are coded as heterosexual including Bogo and Clawhouser, completely irrelevant to the plot.

Which is sad because Bucky Oryx-Antlerson and Pronk Oryx-Antlerson (Judy's loud next-door neighbor) were confirmed as a marries couple.

[(Anonymous)]

"Almost"

[(Anonymous)]

LOL, funny how that works, right?