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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-19 03:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #4762 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4762 ⌋

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[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-01-20 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did I deny that videogames are a hobby or suggest that they’re a less valuable use of your time than other hobbies?

I think you really want me to be a pearl-clutching anti-gamer, if such a thing even exists, and I’m not. I personally don’t want to take on a new time suck that requires building skills that I don’t currently possess.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

You completely breezed by the anon who mentioned that learning the basics of videogames is no different than working to improve any other interest/hobby.
Your response to that was an unprompted list of your own hobbies, all which essentially encapsulated everything you said was the reason you couldn't get into videogames in the first place. That you had enough hobbies to suit your interest, and didn't have the time to waste on something new..
Obviously now I can better see where you're coming from, it just seemed rather shady when I first read it. My response was to try to relate your interests to certain videogames because I didn't actually know where you were coming from.

It was mostly my confusion at your original response, and how I disagree with the notion that all videogames need to be worked at, which is probably how I made a mess of things.

The anon who replied to you made a valid point, but rather than acknowledge that, or explain that you just don't have the time to try something new, you went off on a tangent about your own hobbies, with the implication that you wouldn't be interested in try something else. It isn't so much that you said you denied videogames to be a hobby, but your odd avoidance to admit that fact, and calling it a time suck just struck me as strange.

As I already said, I don't care what you do, or what you like. It's just untrue that every single video game takes a required skillset to play.
sabotabby: (books!)

[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-01-20 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You both seem awfully defensive about your hobbies. Perhaps more time spent reading books would improve your reading comprehension.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
DA. No. The problem really is with you in this exchange. You are simply not willing to concede that some folk don't like what you like and don't want to spend time trying. Their call.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, absolutely no one in this thread has suggested that you should, ought, or need to play games. The conversation could be JUST "I don't play games." "Cool." If you don't want to play games, that is an awesome and reasonable choice. There is nothing to concede, because that's been stated explicitly multiple times in this thread.

But, sabotabby's hill to die on is the nonexistence of causal, story-based, and accessible gaming, so that's the issue.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really not, but you're either too defensive over your hobby or too stuck in "Someone's wrong on the internet!" mode to see that.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If you concede that accessible gaming is a thing for many of us, then this argument is over.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

And yet you're the one still refusing to acknowledge anything that I've said, when my original question was essentially how is playing videogames any different than any other hobby. Continually ignoring the actual topic of conversation is no way to actually have a conversation.

How about I make it simple for you. Do you consider (in general) videogames to be a valid hobby, no different than any other interest? Yes or no question.
I've said a number of times that you don't have to like them, you don't have to play them, this isn't about that.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-01-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
How about I make it simple for you. Do you consider (in general) videogames to be a valid hobby, no different than any other interest? Yes or no question.

I have indeed said it numerous times in this thread, but since reading doesn't seem to be a strong point for you, I'll say it again: Yes, I do.