[ SECRET POST #673 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Marriage is a ceremony. Marriage is a social standard. Why not just fight for civil unions to have the same benefits as marriage?

[ronsard.livejournal.com]

It's so easy to talk. Have you spoken to a married person lately? A million of them? Why abandon the fight we've kept up all these years and made all this progress on in favor of something even more idealistic and less likely to work?

[kristenell.livejournal.com]

Well then it would have to be applied to everyone, and I think getting the straight people to give that up is much more losing battle then trying to gain an equal status under civil marriage. And this is a battle we will win. Right now we are on a generational shift, because younger people overwhelmingly support it. Also it is much easier to bring new people under one umbrella than just try to differentiate to much. We already have civil marriage. That is what gay people want in on. It has never been about the religious connotations of it.

[(Anonymous)]

But then you're indeed fighting for the word. If Civil Unions gave the same benefits as Marriage, then all pragmatism would be lost and it would end up as nothing but an ideological battle.

Why not just make an Civil Union co-exist with Marriage, both with the same benefits?

[kristenell.livejournal.com]

Because then you are doing specialize law for a specialized group of people and that is confusing and burdensome. I don't think that is actually that pragmatic. If they are both the same then why call them something different?

[(Anonymous)]

To make society grow out of marriage slowly.

[kristenell.livejournal.com]

That is never going to happen. And if it does, it will not happen in our lifetimes. Marriage is a civil institution. It started that way and it remained that way. That there is also a religious version does not change that.

Also I would like to be able to gain equal civil rights in my lifetime, and not when I am 84.

[bitter]

You keep saying the same things over and over again without actually replying to arguments.