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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-11-08 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #673 ]


⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 123

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
As a lesbian who also thinks it's enraging when yaoi fangirls think the real-life gay is "gross" and "wrong" and pull a ton of bullshit out of thin air in order to feel justified about not supporting real life gay rights...

Fuck off.

Re: 123

[identity profile] xevochic.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
This. SO HARD.

When I realised that so many fans of slash/femslash and yaoi/yuri (but thankfully not all) do not even agree with the real life LGBT, I was completely disgusted with fandom. They glamourise slash/femslash and yaoi/yuri to be something that's "hot" and "kinky", then proceed to talk about their complete disgust of same-sex or transgendered anything offline.

It reminds me too well of people's attitudes towards interracial relationships back in the day. People would gladly read fiction about interracial relationships, because it was "forbidden" and "mysterious", then turn around and fight tooth and nail against interracial people being together in real life.

It's so sick and fucked up.

Re: 123

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
It is. Thankfully, I don't know anyone in life who's quite like that. I do know a rabid yaoi fangirl -- friend of a friend and I feel BAD for that friend -- because when she found out said friend was bisexual, she flipped out, refused to stand too close to the girl in public because people would "think bad things," etcetera. I hate shit like that, and I hate the hypocrites who think one gender being gay is awesome ("WHOO LESBIANS ARE HOT" or "WHOO BOYS KISSING") but give the other gender flak for it (calling males who are gay horrible names and making their lives hell, going "ewewew!" and pretty much throwing hissy fits when it turns out someone they know is a lesbian).

Luckily, I mostly hear and see this around the high-school-age-or-younger set. And I know people who've grown out of it. But it just... ugh, it makes my esteem for the world sink like a stone.

Re: 123 (a bit long, sorry)

[identity profile] xevochic.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I hate the hypocrites who think one gender being gay is awesome...but give the other gender flak for it.

This SO DAMN HARD. I hate my sister's guyfriends who do the "lesbian are hot, but gay men are disgusting" shit. NO. It does NOT work like that. Stop making lesbians your personal fetish! They are NOT here for your entertainment! Those "weekend lesbians" (the girls who pretend to be lesbians to get attention) don't help matters either.


I'm so sad that I don't know any straight, truly pro-LGBT people offline. I know several gay guys who have straight friends, but all of the straight friends (who I know) are disgusted with their "lifestyle". One of the guys I work with is friends with all of my female co-workers, but every single female co-worker has called him (and our two other gay male co-workers) a "disgusting faggot" behind his back. I even had to cuss one of them out for using that term nonstop one day. We also work with a lot of lesbians at my job; but, despite the sensitivity training we go through every year (which I hate since we are taught about "tolerance" and not "acceptance"), I still hear my female co-workers talk about how "disgusting" the "dykes" are. I will never understand how someone can be surrounded by so many homosexuals and STILL be so fucking bigoted. All of those people are college seniors and older, unfortunately.

I've been called a lesbian several times for sticking up for gay rights. (My mother even thinks I am a lesbian since I haven't been in a long-term relationship with a guy since high school.) Hell, I've been called a lesbian for falling in love with a gay guy who I didn't know was gay at the time. Thankfully, I don't find think it's an insult at all.

As for fandom, I'm so glad I have nothing but fandom friends who are pro-sexuality. It's a great relief from real life bollocks.

Re: 123 (a bit long, sorry)

[identity profile] lady-mercury.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think the problem lies with how its presented in the fandom. There's the submissive/uke and the possessive/seme -- these traits basically represent the a-typical role of man and woman. It doesn't help that the "uke" is drawn almost to look like a woman while the "seme" clearly has " manly traits ".

Even if it is "yaoi/slash" its still not representing anything but giving a flat chested chick a dick.

This is probably why girls get so deluded with yaoi and find it so hard to accept it in the real world. It doesn't look right, it's no longer cute, it doesn't have that cute " awwwwwww its so kawaii~ " appeal.

It makes me sick. I agree with what you said.

Re: 123

[identity profile] maddy-groves.livejournal.com 2008-12-19 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"Hell, I've been called a lesbian for falling in love with a gay guy who I didn't know was gay at the time."

…The logic, I don't even understand where it came from. I am so sorry you have to put up with all that bullshit in your life. Your coworkers sound like pretty horrible people. Also, I'm really glad you stick up for gay rights, despite silly people who assume you must be gay yourself.

This comment makes me so relieved that I know a lot of supportive straight people.