[ SECRET POST #673 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: 123

[(Anonymous)]

Marriage is a religious institution, it should have nothing to do with government. Gay couples should have the same legal rights as all other couples, but this does not mean the government should say, "hey church, change the way you've been operating since you were made."

Re: 123

[lady-mercury.livejournal.com]

It's not changing the way the church runs. What about other cultures that have marriage ceremonies? What about their beliefs on marriage?

Marriage isn't something Christianity invented.

And yes, I am a Christian.

fail anon is fail.

Re: 123

[boosette.livejournal.com]

1) Marriage predates religion. In its purest form it is a contract.

2) Check out the work of Dr. John Boswell (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/index-bos.html), former (A. Whitney Griswold Professor of History at Yale). Turns out the Christianity wasn't always as stuck-up about same-sex unions as it is today.

3) No gay couple's marriage is going to damage any straight couple's marriage. If Mr and Mrs Straighty McStraightStraight think that their marriage is somehow less sacrosanct because a gay people can get married too, when they're both on their fifth marriage and

4) The Unitarian Universalist Church recognizes and supports gay marriage. So do various neopagan faiths, which are recognized by the US government. What about THEIR free exercise of religion?

5) By your logic, athiests and agnostics, and non-practitioners of religion should be barred from marrying on the grounds that they're areligious.

"hey church, change the way you've been operating since you were made."

6) WRONG. Nowhere in any of the laws wherein gay marriage is legal does the language require the church(es) to recognize those marriages. The government is recognizing them ITSELF, and providing the same LEGAL benefits to married gay couples as to married straight couples.


Personally, I'd like to see the government out of marriage all together, both in giving them and in recognizing them when they're given by religious institutions*. Everyone gets a civil union from their state to pick up their "united as a couple" legal rights and then goes to their Religious Organization of Choice for a piece of paper that says "MARRIED" on it.

*which, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't happen today.

Re: 123

[boosette.livejournal.com]

Re: #2: John Boswell is the former A. Whitney Griswold Professor of History at Yale. Which somehow the comment didn't parse. The reason he's a "former" is that he's since died.

Re: 123

[kindkit.livejournal.com]

Oh, for fuck's sake. A state recognizing same-sex marriage DOES NOT force any church to perform a same-sex wedding ceremony. I repeat, DOES NOT. And marriage, as it is regulated by states, is a civil contract. It just happens to be one that can (but doesn't have to be) made binding by a religious ceremony. State recognition of same-sex marriages grants the right to the civil contract, NOT to a religious ceremony. NOT. NOT. NOT.

Next time, do a little research and figure out what the hell you're talking about before you post.