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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-11-08 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #673 ]


⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 123

[identity profile] boosette.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
1) Marriage predates religion. In its purest form it is a contract.

2) Check out the work of Dr. John Boswell (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/index-bos.html), former (A. Whitney Griswold Professor of History at Yale). Turns out the Christianity wasn't always as stuck-up about same-sex unions as it is today.

3) No gay couple's marriage is going to damage any straight couple's marriage. If Mr and Mrs Straighty McStraightStraight think that their marriage is somehow less sacrosanct because a gay people can get married too, when they're both on their fifth marriage and

4) The Unitarian Universalist Church recognizes and supports gay marriage. So do various neopagan faiths, which are recognized by the US government. What about THEIR free exercise of religion?

5) By your logic, athiests and agnostics, and non-practitioners of religion should be barred from marrying on the grounds that they're areligious.

"hey church, change the way you've been operating since you were made."

6) WRONG. Nowhere in any of the laws wherein gay marriage is legal does the language require the church(es) to recognize those marriages. The government is recognizing them ITSELF, and providing the same LEGAL benefits to married gay couples as to married straight couples.


Personally, I'd like to see the government out of marriage all together, both in giving them and in recognizing them when they're given by religious institutions*. Everyone gets a civil union from their state to pick up their "united as a couple" legal rights and then goes to their Religious Organization of Choice for a piece of paper that says "MARRIED" on it.

*which, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't happen today.
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Re: 123

[identity profile] boosette.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: #2: John Boswell is the former A. Whitney Griswold Professor of History at Yale. Which somehow the comment didn't parse. The reason he's a "former" is that he's since died.