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fandomsecrets2020-02-07 06:47 pm
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[ SECRET POST #4781 ]
⌈ Secret Post #4781 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[linked for nsfw fanart, Snape/Hermione]
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16. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
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(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 01:21 am (UTC)(link)So Nomura started on FF15 but the project was given to Tabata. What do you mean Tabata ruined it? Like, you weren't happy with the direction it ended up taking? And then Nomura, within KH3... featured the FF15 characters or something but in a totally different way? And meanwhile Tabata was fired and FF15 is a financial failure?
Sorry, this is all new to me. I didn't play 15 but I'm old enough to remember when it was supposed to be part of 13, but production got dragged out for so long it became it's own game.
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(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 01:22 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 01:42 am (UTC)(link)ff15 is a game featuring characters and designs from versus but no resemblance to its initial conception/plot
kh3 yozura stuff is probably versus plot kh-ified without the original characters/setting so he had to make a bunch of replacements (although this is a guess since, well, it doesn’t exist yet)
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(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 02:11 am (UTC)(link)Both in a storyline way and a development way. The storyline was ... poor, especially in a long line of rich Final Fantasy games, the characters were interesting in the moment but bad virtually no backgrounds and history, which is a major step down for the Final Fantasy series. They were paper thin outside of the immediate situations they were in. Noct had a father, but absent mother. Gladio and his sister had a father which was only alluded to in Gladio's DLC, and any loss was ignored entirely during the normal game. Ignis had no mention of parents at all, and ... Prompto's family backstory was dubiously canon and only explained in a slightly weird anime prequel, otherwise was ignored. The game required an expansion in order to explain a lot of the world-based stuff because it just wasn't included in the first place and you could see that it was both Final Fantasy XIII's series with the serial numbers filed off (Ardyn is basically the same character as Caius, let's face it) AND that Tabata was clearly working from two conflicting sets of notes during the production (the original Regis-era team was inconsistent at various points in the game and seemed to switch randomly between Cor being present and Weskham being present, depending on what point we look at!). It's also obvious that originally certain characters were intended to be evil in the end and this was changed late enough in the game for pictures of these characters to be used in the strategy guide. There are like, three distinctly different version of Gladio's father, for example.
It didn't help that the game started out open and then closed off to rails, the very opposite of a winning formula, required watching a beautiful but intensely boring movie in order to understand the immediate backstory and the fact that the DLC, which took WAY too long to be released in the life of a reasonably simple RPG, didn't seem to mesh whatsoever with the information we'd already been given. Prompto's made no sense. Gladio's was just a fighty aside to ham-handed explain his scars. Ignis's was a pared down version of Assassin's Creed Syndicate for no real reason and even a major element of development for his character didn't make sense, because a line of dialogue from him references the movie... which... he wasn't present for and couldn't have known about.
It was, in short, an absolute shitshow.
It's fine at the time, when you play it, honestly. But the further away you get, the more you can see the holes in the tapestry and the myriad fuck-ups made by Tabata and his team. The fact that it ended up absolutely NOTHING like the original trailer and the fact that it had been forcibly removed from the Final Fantasy XIII universe/background was seriously obvious didn't help it. The Etro imagery is still visible in certain scenes, the assets are re-used in things like playing cards, it's clear god names have been changed to omit the Bhunivelze/Etro/Pulse/Lindzei type stuff that was originally intended and replaced with the usual summon names just to cover the old association up.
Final Fantasy XV has some good character interaction. It's got some of the best character-to-character banter and conversation of anything I've ever seen not put out by Rockstar. It's pretty, too. But alas, it was flat. It doesn't live up to the series legacy. Last Remnant felt like more of a Final Fantasy than FFXV.
And the financial decisions were ... bad. The game itself did okay, but the promotion was poor. They released a movie that was practically Required Reading for understanding it, and even if you forewent it for the game itself, if you bothered with the Comrades DLC it was necessary, or you were left very confused. They took upwards of a YEAR to release the DLC, even for people with the Season Pass (which was released at the same time as the game, in November..? I think? with the first part of the DLC coming out in MARCH) and the online multiplayer ended up being just battle-based instead of team-based exploration like people wanted, which led to it being empty and devoid of people very quickly. Not to mention the OBNOXIOUSLY long loading times.
Then they released it to the PC, with extras, ignored all the console fans while giving shitloads of new content to the PC gamers, and the expanded version the PC got, while also released on console, came with the DLC packet attached and extra bits, which people who already had the game, and had paid separate for the DLC for ... had to literally buy. It wasn't even given as a goodwill gesture to loyal early players, we had to buy the additional shit separately if we wanted it. Which is horseshit, honestly. To break it down, early players paid full price for the game and the full price of the DLC pass (say... £55 and £25), got made to wait over a year for all the DLC we'd paid for, and then they released all that, plus extras, and the DLC, to new players for a cheaper price (£35, iirc) and made us pay extra if we wanted the add-ons, despite fucking us around for a year (£12).
Then they took a random vote for what additional DLC we wanted after finally releasing all of it, decided for some reason to have Ardyn, Aranea (side character), Luna (who literally had all the interesting development in the aforementioned movie) and Noctis who ... HAD THE ENTIRE GAME.
Then the second DLCs got canned, except Ardyn's which was already in development, and Tabata got fired because ... well. I think you can guess.
The game ended up losing a lot of money.
I can see why Nomura wants to take back his generic hero design and re-purpose him for Kingdom Hearts, especially since the original trailers for FF Versus XIII were supposed to be considerably darker than a buddy-based road trip and people turning into Heartless, uh, Daemons, because of Geostigma ... I mean, sorry, Starscourge.
Sorry, this got long. I have Feelings.
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(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 07:03 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2020-02-08 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)