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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-02-15 03:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #4789 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4789 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-02-15 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
She talked about in 2007 when someone asked her if Dumbledore had ever been in love.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-15 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
verified that was the year? because I'm 100% going to go with her if the actual text that she had to sit down and write, think about, edit, and approve to be published between 1995 and 2007 would not have included anything about Dumbledore's sexuality. fandom itself was still grappling with how much to say about gay romances and was still tagging fic with warnings for gay in 05-08 so. it's entirely possible that despite her being the author with the control over what words go on the page, she knew that it wouldn't be received or her editors would politely ask her to take it out or, since she wasn't a fandom-connected person at all in the first place, legit didn't think people would actually want to read that.

it's 13 years later and a lot has changed since.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

When the 6th and 7th books were coming out, JKR was one of the most popular, widely-read, and powerful authors in the world. The idea that her editors could stop her from including a detail completely lacks plausibility. Nor would JKR have been the first YA author to include gay characters (by a long shot).

I'm not even trying to address the question of whether she ought or ought not have made Dumbledore textually gay, or what was in her mind when she wrote the books, or any of that. But I find these arguments that it would have been impossible or really difficult for her to do so very much not compelling.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Witch Baby was 1991. Runaways and Young Avengers were out in 2004. The idea that Deathly Hallows had to be subtext because it was on the bleeding edge of LGBTQ representation in 2007 just isn't true.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Deathly Hallows is the only one of those I've ever heard of.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's not like Runaways didn't win an Eisner and was one of the more successful Marvel TV properties. Oh, wait a minute.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
So?

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT: Rowling stans will bend over backwards and rewrite history rather than admit that Rowling wasn't the most socially progressive writer of her generation.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, Runaways was kinda shady with their representation.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-16 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
An unambiguous lesbian character who self-describes as lesbian in text vs. ambiguous googoo eyes at a genocidal chucklefuck.