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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-02-16 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #4790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4790 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-02-16 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
no there's so really blantant homophobia that is also misogyny tropes in fandom that "weepy girl in man's body" really captures

(Anonymous) 2020-02-17 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know

For one thing, it sort of seems to me like it would be useful to have a way to talk about these issues that more directly problematizes the idea that these themes in characterization can accurately be summed up as "weepy girl shit"
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-02-17 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
well "weepy girl shit" isn't what was said. and i don't think there is an fundamental difference between "emotional girl in a very stereotypical way but male because this is m/m and they occupy the same social position" and "weepy girl in man's body"

(Anonymous) 2020-02-17 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Phrasing it as "weepy girl in a man's body" is a really bad way to criticize that though as the wording is both misogynistic and homophobic itself.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-02-17 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
copied from above: i don't think there is an fundamental difference between "emotional girl in a very stereotypical way but male because this is m/m and they occupy the same social position" and "weepy girl in man's body"

maybe i don't see what you're seeing as to what is misogynistic and homophobic? I think it's a description of the misogynist and homophobic thought behind the trope.