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[The Caligula Effect]

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[Binging with Babish (youtube)]

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[Wang Yibo as Lan Wangji in The Untamed]

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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]

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[Star Trek Voyager]

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[Fights Break Sphere, aka Battle Through the Heavens]

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What's the difference between pansexuality and bisexuality?

I think different people define it differently. For me, as someone who calls myself bisexual and not pansexual, I see it as bisexuality as being attracted to two distinct gender types whereas pansexuality is more fluid and open and more likely to be attracted to people regardless of gender and to gender nonconforming people and just to not particularly care and to have a wider range.

I'm bi, and don't get attracted to people in that way.

That's cool. That's just how I define it for me. Pansexual feels bigger to me and more open, whereas while I'm attracted to both men and women I have distinct types I'm attracted to. I don't know that there is a clear single definition of the terms, that is just how I define them for me.

There's no functional difference. Bisexual people and pansexual people apprehend various specific nuanced meanings in the distinction but mostly you should use whatever you want.

One explanation I saw was something like, bisexual means you're attracted to your gender, plus people who are not your gender. And pansexual means you're attracted to all genders? I might be butchering that, sorry. But I think it's mostly a cultural difference, possibly generational? Or just personal preference.

It depends on who you ask. I personally think pansexuals generally don’t care as much about specific combos of genitalia or secondary sex characteristics and are, well, less picky than bisexuals. Bisexuals may be attracted to lots of different genitalia and gender presentations—ones like their own, but also different ones—but while pansexuals may find the same people attractive, they don’t care so much about plumbing or presentation.

But that’s just my take, everybody has a different one.

There is none. People just want to parade how woke they are in comparison to the bis.

Bisexual: attraction to more than one gender or sex, not necessarily in the same way or to the same degree. Since sexuality and gender are intersectional, bi communities include trans people and partners of trans people.

Pansexual: Bisexual but inclined to do language policing rather than support nonbinary bi people.

oh shut the fuck up you gatekeeping asshole.

If you prefer a different label, whatever. I'd like something without the "-sexual" root myself.

But when you start explaining "the difference" in ways that marginalize me as a nonbinary bi person, I'm going to object.

Look, I personally don't see the point in calling yourself pansexual but there's no reason to be a dick to people who do

You mean, other than the constant misinformation and concern-trolling from pan advocates?

In my experience as a bisexual person, there can functionally be a lot of overlap but the reason people choose to identify as one rather than the other can be very personal.

What's the difference between pansexual and demisexual is what I want to know.

Pansexuals are open to trying any kind of dessert. Demisexuals don't usually care for sweets, but sometimes if they know the chef and have been walked through the recipe, they get a craving.

+1000000 I like this analogy.

As a square cishet female, I've always struggled with coming up with a concise comparison of the two terms.

You really make that tricky nutshell definition stuff look easy. I'm so jealous I could spit.

ayrt

Well, I did ask... Honestly, that's probably a perfect way to explain it without actually having to get into the getting into the nitty gritty of all the technicalities.

From what I know about pansexuality, it's that they become attracted to a personality, and demisexuality is when they have to know someone's personality before they can become attracted to them. The only real life example to tell the difference is that pansexuals must have an /exact/ 50/50 spilt of gender preference, which is what somehow defines them from being 'just bi' and demi's have to have a preferred gender? where attraction only begins when you know what someone is like before liking them, but they have to suit their preference?

Sorry in advance, I basically need things to be explained to me like I'm some sort of fifth grader before I can catch on sometimes, if you could be so patient with me, I would really appreciate it!

Most people these days who care about these things put demisexuality on the asexuality spectrum, because it’s more about how the person is wired to feel sexual attraction (or not) than who they may or may not be sexually attracted to.

So, most people who feel sexual attraction to a specific subset of people aren’t going to want to boink everyone in that subset, but they’re going to get that “I’d tap that” feeling from time to time (regardless of whether or not they have any interest in acting on that feeling). The pool of people who trigger that feeling in pansexuals is larger, because it’s not constrained by gender presentation. Demis don’t get that feeling at all, except in highly specific circumstances with people they already know well.

ayrt

Thank you! I can't say I completely get it, but this definitely helps me understand better!

Functionally, there isn't one.

However, there are

A) many people who call themselves bi that think that being bisexual means that you like cis women and you like cis men

B) many people who think other people who call themselves bi means they like cis women and cis men and do not necessarily like anyone else, probably largely driven by group A) above

It's unfair in the comments above to say that the pan people just want to be or feel special, because those people are probably reacting to group A) above. It's also unfair to say that the bi people are exclusively attracted to two binary genders, because they're not and that isn't the definition of bisexuality.

Basically, it boils down to bisexuality becoming misinterpreted in the mainstream (AKA non LGBT circles) use; to most cishet people who have no deep knowledge of these identity labels, bi just means you "like both men and women". People who identify as bisexual don't want to give up the label and want to correct people on it. People who identify as pansexual want to move on to a new term that's clearer about the definition to the mainstream. Both have valid viewpoints

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