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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-06 05:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #4840 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4840 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Caligula Effect]


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[Binging with Babish (youtube)]


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[Wang Yibo as Lan Wangji in The Untamed]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Star Trek Voyager]


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[Fights Break Sphere, aka Battle Through the Heavens]












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(Anonymous) 2020-04-07 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. There was so much filler in most old TV, and shows tended to be way, way too plot driven in the most simplistic possible way (i.e. "what monster/crime/mystery will the heroes face this week?")

Characterization has gotten so much more intricate and nuanced in the last decade and a half, and everything is so much leaner and less episodic.

There are things I miss about old-school television. And IMO it's true that old-school television was better for building fandoms on. But if I discount fandom and just evaluate modern television on its own merits, there isn't even a competition. I just think it's so much smarter and more complex than TV used to be.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
This. The problem with episodic shows full of filler is that you can't really have significant character development because the show is set up so that people can come in and watch an episode or two without having to have kept up with everything that's happened to date. You can't make too many major changes to the status quo or else you ruin the episodic intent.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-07 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Right?!

It's something that absolutely drives me crazy with episodic shows. I wouldn't mind the episodic aspect so much if the damn writers would just LET the characters EVOLVE. But they never would, because they were scared to lose viewers, shake up the status quo, and also have to turn in more sophisticated work.

Like how, in The X-Files, Mulder's fixation on his sister's fate was NEVER allowed to evolve or change, despite all the times they gave him an episode where it seemed like he was started to find closure, or become accepting of the lack of closure. The next episode it was always right back to square one. (And don't even get me started on the absurdity of how Scully could never, ever become even a little bit of a believer, despite EVERYTHING she'd seen, because that would shake up the status quo, and they couldn't allow that.)

Oy.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Episodic is fine for sitcoms! But it really doesn't work well when you're trying to have any sort of actual long-running plot because that necessitates the characters being able to grow and develop.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-07 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
100%

I still love my old shows and all, but I can't say I overly miss the obscene amount of filler so many of them had, even for the ones I loved, and how the characters could really only develop so far because we were gonna get to 9-10 seasons.

Yes I kinda wish new TV was structured for more seasons and could keep up the same good writing for 5+, but if this is the new wave where we get shorter, but tighter shows? Then I'm actually good with that.