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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-22 05:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4856 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4856 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but you're wrong. It's true that the writing is wildly uneven, and even the good writing is good in very specific kinds of ways, and often even the well-written bits have dodgy elements. But some Doctor Who writing is good, both on classic Who and New Who. And what's more, the quality of the writing is hugely impactful on the quality of the output.

Look at Blink or Silence In The Library / Forests of the Dead, for instance - magnificent, great episodes of Doctor Who that are great in large parts because Moffat wrote brilliant scripts with great conceptual business linked to really strong emotional beats. Compare the Cartmel and Saward eras of classic Who - the same producer across both eras, probably a higher budget during the Saward era, plenty of skilled performers in each, but the Cartmel era is a million times better largely on the strength of the writing. If anything, Doctor Who is uniquely dependent on the quality of the writing, as an expansive and often bizarre science fiction show with a comparatively low budget. And that's also probably why the franchise was able to survive for 15 years solely on books and radio scripts.

I shouldn't say you're wrong, really. I'm sure there is a way to enjoy Doctor Who that has nothing to do with the quality of the writing, I just don't know what it is.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-04-22 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
But what is and isn't quality writing is subjective. There is no universal standard, and people disagree on what are good and well written episodes and what aren't.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think once you get past technical aspects, what's considered good writing really depends on the person. I like the episodes you listed, but I wouldn't consider them magnificent. Episodes like Vincent and the Doctor, The Girl in the Fireplace, Listen, and Demons of the Punjab are the ones I would consider magnificent. I also know some people would wildly disagree with me and say those episodes are merely okay or not good at all.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's fine, you can argue about which episodes are well-written, my overall point is more that the quality of the writing matters a lot for the quality of the show