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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-22 05:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4856 ]


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I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you feel about professional media about real people? The based on or inspired by real life events, using actual names and likenesses - The Social Network, Hidden Figures, 12 Years a Slave, Walk the Line, Apollo 13, Titanic, The King's Speech, The Impossible, J. Edgar, Band of Brothers, From Earth to the Moon, Monster, Boys Don't Cry, Zodiac, Psycho, The Queen, United 93, Bombshell, Harriet, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Fosse/Verdon, Chernobyl, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Judy, Green Book, Bohemian Rhapsody, The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story, The Post, Battle of the Sexes, I,Tonya, All the Money in the World, The Greatest Showman, Detroit, Darkest Hour, Hacksaw Ridge, The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story, Race, Joy, The Danish Girl - just to name a fraction of what is out there.

Some, of course, are more accurate or have less dramatic license taken, but I guarantee at least something included is speculation or didn't happen at all in each. Sometimes an effort is made to be respectful, but often they just want to tell an interesting story.

Re: I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
most of these aren't heavily eroticized pieces of fiction, they're often bio-pics detailing a person's life and achievements, not 20k porn about them getting it on with a co-worker that isn't 'canon'.

this argument is and always will be a complete false equivalence, and you can justify your want to write RPF with a simple 'bc i want to' instead of trying to act like PG movies about someone's life is at all the same thing. it isn't.

Re: I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I think you're making false equivalence yourself in thinking all RPF is porn. Sure a lot of fic is shipping and a good amount of that includes explicit or mature sexual situations, but not all of it.

And I can say there absolutely have been movies/TV shows based on real people with speculative or wholly fabricated romances.

Re: I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect that the percentage of RPF that does not include explicit fucking is slightly smaller than the percentage that does include mpreg. But whatever. If it makes you feel better, your RPF A/B/O AU is exactly the same as The Unsinkable Molly Brown.

Re: I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

No, but I don't think an RPF fic that ends with them declaring their love for each other and kissing is all that different from the blowjobs in the bathroom in The Social Network.

And just for you, I looked up BTS on AO3, of the ~120200 fics, and the Mature and Explicit rated fics make up about 39%, the Not Rated make up about 15%, the Teen And Up Audiences and General Audiences rated fics make up about 46%, and fics with a Mpreg tag of all ratings numbered ~2000 or about 1.7%.

Re: I have a question.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but I have an intense issue with shows like these. They're literally RPF in the way that the misconstrue/completely fictionalize events for the sake of enjoyment/ratings. The Versace show was a constant commercial when I was watching a show on demand (so I couldn't fast forward) and it pissed me off so much since it's OTT fake and the fact is that people see and watch it and think its real. It's actually worse than RPF because they aren't even using the disclaimer of calling it fiction, and the tiny 'base on events that happened kinda' to avoid being sued just makes it worse.

Like nothing makes me more pissed than that stupid 'Feud' show, or whatever it's called because it's 100% fake. Olivia De Havilland literally filed a lawsuit against it because of how bullshit it was, like they didn't just take advantage that these famous people we're dead so they couldn't say anything, they went as far as to slander still living legends because they could get away with it, and you know what? They fucking did, like fuck them!

"On June 30, 2017, a day before her 101st birthday, actress Olivia de Havilland filed a lawsuit against Feud: Bette and Joan for inaccurately portraying her and using her likeness without permission.[53] The lawsuit stated that the pseudo-documentary-style of the series leads viewers to believe that the statements made by the actress portraying de Havilland in the show are accurate, but that in fact de Havilland had not said such things in real life.[54] The various defendants filed a motion to dismiss under California's "anti-SLAPP" law. The trial court denied the motion but, on March 26, 2018, the California Court of Appeal, Second District, reversed the decision and ordered the lawsuit dismissed on the grounds that no person can "own history". The Court of Appeal further ruled the defendants were entitled to be reimbursed their attorneys' fees.[55] De Havilland filed for estoppels to pursue action with higher courts, securing a restraining order against Murphy and the production company from airing Feud until further review and a court date with the United States Supreme Court. In January 2019, the Supreme Court declined to hear the case.[56]"

^ From wiki.